Hey Capt. still lovin' the Trumpster?

Peter Bowman

11 posts

8/22/2018 7:08 PM

Stephen Okula, CGCS said:
Steven Kurta said: Skitt's law: "Any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself." Named after Skitt, a contributor to alt.usage.english on Usenet

*Sentences end with periods.

..... and occasionally in pardons.

Steven Kurta

2 posts

8/23/2018 4:08 AM

Wrt Clay's "where's the beef?"
If you use Twitter, there's a thread here that teases out where Special Counsel is likely going with everything here:
https://twitter.com/morten/status/10325 ... 34368?s=19
It devolves into name calling Qanon nonesense further down but the Norwegian nails it.
The entire mid term voting event is going to be framed with impeachment (or the avoidence of) as the outcome for both sides .
I don't think impeaching him is a good idea. His adherents are just going to cry foul and be butthurt forever. And since he's who he is, there's no way he's leaving office under his own steam.
My money is in the process of inquiry, his own financial webs get exposed and he's found guilty on some sort of money laundering charges related to Russian election tampering.
Part of this whole mess, like it or not, is his operation is sloppy and as the layers get peeled back, his poor decisions or sloppy cover up (assumedly from not having "pros" running the show, are going to up-end him. His web will unravel. He might leave before his whole life gets dumped upside down..self preservation he's good at.
Not proofread..excuse typos
PATIENCE, BRO.

Ronald Kirkman

40 posts

8/23/2018 3:08 PM

HEY;

You guys keep giving me information about Trump - Mr. Mueller says and I will give you all a get out of jail free card like the same one we gave to Hillary and all the democrats.

Our job is to destroy this so-called president because we hate him and he is not presidential material.

He is not like the Kennedy's - Ted Kennedy's negligence caused the death of Mary Joe Kopechne.

SECRET FBI FILES show that Ted, Jack and Bobby Kennedy participated in steamy wild sex parties with Marilyn Monroe and celebrities as Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis JR. Notice the word says SECRET and you know who was in charge of the FBI at that time was Mr. J. Edgar Hoover.

We know Mr. Mueller is out of the scope of the investigation and we know his style - He knew four men did not commit a murder but he could care less and he saw that they were convicted of murder. Two died in jail and the other two were exonerated. It cost the taxpayer 103 million dollars.

Another screw up was the anthrax case when he and Comey arrested a gentleman that had nothing to do with it. And, he was finally let out of jail when the real murderer was caught. Another cost of about 8 million dollars.

In another few weeks we will all know the true story of the FBI, CIA, DOJ and what they did to frame Mr. Trump.

Capt. Kirk
Retired Alien
Needham Golf Club
Needham, MA

Keith Lamb

3 posts

8/23/2018 4:08 PM

Steven Kurta said:
I don't think impeaching him is a good idea. His adherents are just going to cry foul and be butthurt forever.

The Capt. just proved this point.

Clay Putnam

33 posts

8/23/2018 4:08 PM

Steven Kurta said: Wrt Clay's "where's the beef?"
If you use Twitter, there's a thread here that teases out where Special Counsel is likely going with everything here:
https://twitter.com/morten/status/10325 ... 34368?s=19
It devolves into name calling Qanon nonesense further down but the Norwegian nails it.
The entire mid term voting event is going to be framed with impeachment (or the avoidence of) as the outcome for both sides .
I don't think impeaching him is a good idea. His adherents are just going to cry foul and be butthurt forever. And since he's who he is, there's no way he's leaving office under his own steam.
My money is in the process of inquiry, his own financial webs get exposed and he's found guilty on some sort of money laundering charges related to Russian election tampering.
Part of this whole mess, like it or not, is his operation is sloppy and as the layers get peeled back, his poor decisions or sloppy cover up (assumedly from not having "pros" running the show, are going to up-end him. His web will unravel. He might leave before his whole life gets dumped upside down..self preservation he's good at.
Not proofread..excuse typos
PATIENCE, BRO.

I'm not a card carrying Twitterer. Plus the format makes my head hurt so I'll go with your play-by-play call. I agree. It will be an accidental peripheral charge,if anything, that crumbles Trump. Though I'm not convinced it will happen. So far he has done nothing illegal - as you say, like it or not. Bad optics and slimy, but not illegal. The Cohen convictions are legal amateur stuff given the special investigation's original intent was collusion. They went to bat swinging for the fences and settled for a bunt single. Mueller should hang a FAIL pin on his lapel. Everyone looses their stool over Trump but then celebrates feeble victories. Lame IMO.

Larry Allan

0 posts

8/24/2018 9:08 AM

Stephen Okula, CGCS said:
Clay Putnam, CGCS said: These special investigations are making me feel ripped off. I want what I am paying for. I want collusion dammit! We pay good money for this collusion investigation and all we get is a measly tax evasion. What a jip*.

*gyp

Be patient, it's not over yet. You'll get your money's woth.

As a card carrying Gypsy I am deeply offended by the term Gyp as it stereotypes all of us as swindlers and criminals. We have good and bad within our race. Just like all others

Ronald Conard

4 posts

8/24/2018 11:08 AM

Ronald Kirkman said: HEY;

You guys keep giving me information about Trump - Mr. Mueller says and I will give you all a get out of jail free card like the same one we gave to Hillary and all the democrats.

Our job is to destroy this so-called president because we hate him and he is not presidential material.

He is not like the Kennedy's - Ted Kennedy's negligence caused the death of Mary Joe Kopechne.

SECRET FBI FILES show that Ted, Jack and Bobby Kennedy participated in steamy wild sex parties with Marilyn Monroe and celebrities as Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis JR. Notice the word says SECRET and you know who was in charge of the FBI at that time was Mr. J. Edgar Hoover.

We know Mr. Mueller is out of the scope of the investigation and we know his style - He knew four men did not commit a murder but he could care less and he saw that they were convicted of murder. Two died in jail and the other two were exonerated. It cost the taxpayer 103 million dollars.

Another screw up was the anthrax case when he and Comey arrested a gentleman that had nothing to do with it. And, he was finally let out of jail when the real murderer was caught. Another cost of about 8 million dollars.

In another few weeks we will all know the true story of the FBI, CIA, DOJ and what they did to frame Mr. Trump.

Capt. Kirk
Retired Alien
Needham Golf Club
Needham, MA

I'm fascinated by the human condition that will eat any lie (or series of lies) then regurgitate it as their own despite all other evidence that would cause pause for reflection by any normal, sane human being. The liar believes his audience is dumb enough to ingest his b.s. and accept it. And sure enough, for the liar, there is always some one dumb enough, or paranoid enough, to run with it and never open their mind to the fact that something just isn't right.

I'm not just talking about the Trump situation. Throw the other side and Hillary in if you want. Anyone who followed the recent Urban Meyer situation with an open mind witnessed the same behavior at play. The guy literally will came up with the most unbelievable line of b.s. and yet, just because he wins for the home team, people will argue his virtues to the death. No wonder our species has no problem killing the other guy. If you're on my team you're good. If you're not, go to Hell.

Is it all just about whose ox was gored?

Stephen Okula

3 posts

8/24/2018 2:08 PM

ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH *THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS *

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C. Â§Â§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as follows:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States Department
of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. Â§ 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

Signed by Acting Attorney General (and Trump appointee) Rod Rosenstein on May 5 2017.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... atters.pdf

This is known as rule of law.

Steven Kurta

2 posts

8/25/2018 7:08 AM

..And now you wonder what trump (or whoever trump's handler in the GRU is) has on Lindsey Graham to get him to pull a total 180Â° in the face of all of this..
Something smells.
I mean yeah, solid Trump people are going to go Â¯\_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯..#butwhatabouthillaryblahblahi I think things are reaching their inevitable conclusion. The threat of his family being dragged down with him will shake him.
Does it split the country or do people accept the truth?

Ronald Kirkman

40 posts

8/27/2018 7:08 PM

GREETINGS:

Mr. Ron Conard from Friday, August 24 & Mr. Steven Kurta form Saturday, August 25.

I don't understand your last post. Maybe you could explain it to me.

Thanks,

Capt. Kirk
Retired Alien
Needham Golf Club
Needham, MA

Steven Kurta

2 posts

8/28/2018 9:08 AM

Nah, I'm good. You understand plenty.

But I did love this one..

: Trump Google's himself or 'trump news'
: Doesn't like results OF GOOGLE
: without evidence and no working knowledge of how search engines function, claims Google is liberal
media machine that's part of the deep state... he's really something.

You know who else likes to censor search engines?
You're right! China! and other authoritarian dictatorships.
...

This man is a gift that keeps on giving..
Unbelievable incompetence. Dishonorable petty man.

Ronald Kirkman

40 posts

8/28/2018 10:08 PM

Thanks for the info Steven. You cleared it up for me. I understand now. Speaking of China, I heard they have thousands of Hillary's e-mails.

Capt. Kirk

Stephen Okula

3 posts

8/29/2018 12:08 AM

Ronald Kirkman said: Thanks for the info Steven. You cleared it up for me. I understand now. Speaking of China, I heard they have thousands of Hillary's e-mails.

Capt. Kirk

Could you clear up some confusion for me please?

Trump harshly criticises athletes who take a knee during the national anthem, calling them S.O.B.'s and they should be fired because they disrespect the American flag and by extension our military who served and sacrificed for it.

On the other hand, Commander-in-Chief Bonespurs criticised Senator McCain for being captured, and by extension every American service personnel who was ever held captive by an adversary. He later only grudgingly praised McCain after a lot of arm twisting.

So does Trump believe the flag represents only those who have not been captured?

Steven Kurta

2 posts

8/30/2018 9:08 AM

"Imagine what life would be like if the only "trusted" news source is the government, mandating what's reported and controlling what appears in internet search engine results. I've visited places like that. They are not the United States of America."

- Jim Acosta

Yet here we are and the only ones to blame are ourselves.
Trump is merely a symptom of a deeper corrosion of American society where wrong is right and truth means whatever you want it to mean.

"Don't believe half of what you see
and none of what you hear"
- Lou Reed

Trevor Monreal

5 posts

8/30/2018 2:08 PM

Stephen Okula, CGCS said:
Could you clear up some confusion for me please?
Trump harshly criticises athletes who take a knee during the national anthem, calling them S.O.B.'s and they should be fired because they disrespect the American flag and by extension our military who served and sacrificed for it.
On the other hand, Commander-in-Chief Bonespurs criticised Senator McCain for being captured, and by extension every American service personnel who was ever held captive by an adversary. He later only grudgingly praised McCain after a lot of arm twisting.
So does Trump believe the flag represents only those who have not been captured?

This is easy...it was personal between The President and Senator McCain. They didn't care much for each other. Sorry but I don't see the mystery here or why the confusion.
As for the flag, I believe it's the other way around. The men and women that serve honorably are a great representation of the Goodness if not Greatness (as offensive this may be) our flag stands for.
Those that take a knee...well, I have yet to hear anything definitive as to what they represent.
They'll figure it out

Ronald Kirkman

40 posts

8/30/2018 3:08 PM

Mr. Stephen Okula;

Most Americans love professional football. Many games are televised Sunday after noon and evening, Monday and Thursday evening also. We are there to watch football and not the athletes political aspirations. You work for the owners and we love to watch you play. But now you want to share your grievances while the National Anthem is being played. That is insulting to our military and it doesn't seem to bother you. If I were an owner and you knelt during the Anthem I would deduct one games pay from you and if you did it a second time you would be fired. This would be written into your contract.

As it stands now, viewer participation is down 12 %. You'll see this borne out in the weekly TV ratings also. Maybe if you lose a few sponsors you might just wake up and start to realize where your pay is coming from. I will not watch NFL football on TV. As you can see Mr. Trump is not the only one that does not appreciate what some of the players do.

Now Mr. McCAin has seven children - 4 sons and 3 daughters. How am I supposed to remember what happened 51 years ago. I will do my best - now you pay close attention to what I tell you.

I had an older brother in the air force. Not a pilot and not in Viet Nam and he did not know McCain. He was a Sargent. He told me pilots in an A - 4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4 would "Wet Start" his plane and of course this can be done deliberately or accidentally. This would shoot a flame from the rear of his aircraft. "Wet Starting" was a common practice among "Hot - Dog" pilots.

Time goes on and it is 1967 and my father asks me to share in the driving to attend my brother Alan's graduation on Paris Island from the U.S.Marine Corps. We get there and the secretary informs the Sargent Major that a Wilfred Kirkman from Lawrence, Massachusetts is here to see his son graduate. The Sargent Major comes storming out of his office and asks where is this guy Kirkman. They look at each other and both said almost simultaneously I'll be damned. My dad and this Sargent Major were best friends in high school and they both tried out in baseball with the Boston Braves. Needless to say they both did not make it. The Sargent Major opens the draw from his file cabinet and says after Camp Lejeune Alan is scheduled to be on a destroyer. We will fix that and he assigns my brother Alan to the U.S.S. Forrestal to be the Admirals Orderly.

We know Senator McCain was on that Carrier but they did not know each other. Without getting into detail we know a projectile somehow was discharged from a plane that caused tremendous damage to the Forrestal. It was one week later that we heard from my younger brother Alan and at that time he had no idea what happened but he was on the deck rescuing sailors who were seriously injured. He was recommended for the Navy Cross but received a lessor medal.

Two days after the Carrier was almost destroyed Alan was scheduled to meet our brother Rick who was one of many Marine sharpshooters that guarded the air base in Da Nang and our other brother Jack who was a Sargent in the tank division with the First Marine Division.

Now, 49 years later - during the debate when Mr. Trump got into a bit of a problem with McCain about him not being a hero. I asked my brother Alan about the circumstances on that issue. At that time during the debate he stated a lot of Navy personnel and even some pilots thought it was McCain that shot the missile out. He said it was proven that it was not McCain because the missile came from the opposite side of where his plane was. I read lots of stories on this and I for one believed it was McCain because he was a " Hot - Dog Pilot ". It's possible the president thought the same thing.

Capt.Kirk
Retired Alien
Needham Golf Club
Needham, MA

Stephen Okula

3 posts

8/30/2018 11:08 PM

The personal animosity between McCain and Trump was initiated by Trump, "He's not a war hero," said Trump. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

This is callous and disrespectful not only toward Senator McCain but all former American POW's, especially coming from a rich boy draft dodger. There is no moral equivalency here, like, "Oh, they just didn't get along." No, Trump went out of his way to insult MCCain and his fellow POW's for their service, and in McCain's case, outstanding courage.

And by the way, the facts on the Forrestal:

"A McDonnell Douglas F-4B Phantom (No. 110, BuNo 153061), flown by LCDR James E. Bangert and LT(JG) Lawrence E. McKay from VF-11,was positioned on the aft starboard corner of the deck, pointing about 45 degrees across the ship. It was armed with LAU-10 underwing rocket pods, each containing four unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rockets. The Zuni was protected from launching by a safety pin that was only to be removed prior to launch from the catapult.

At about 10:51 (local time) on 29 July, an electrical power surge in the Phantom occurred during the switch from external to internal power. The electrical surge caused one of the four 5-inch Mk-32 Zuni unguided rockets in a pod on external stores station 2 (port inboard station) to fire.

The rocket was later determined to be missing the rocket safety pin, allowing the rocket to launch. The rocket flew about 100 feet (30 m) across the flight deck, likely severing the arm of a crewman, and ruptured a 400 US gallons (1,500 l; 330 imp gal) wing-mounted external fuel tank on a Skyhawk from VA-46 awaiting launch.

The official Navy investigation identified the Skyhawk struck by the Zuni as aircraft No. 405, piloted by Lieutenant Commander (Lt. Cmdr.) Fred D. White. Lt. Cmdr. John McCain stated in his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers that the missile struck his aircraft, alongside White's A-4 Skyhawk. 'On that Saturday morning in July, as I sat in the cockpit of my A-4 preparing to take off, a rocket hit the fuel tank under my airplane'."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

Trevor Monreal

5 posts

8/31/2018 1:08 PM

Stephen Okula, CGCS said: The personal animosity between McCain and Trump was initiated by Trump, "He's not a war hero," said Trump. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

So Trump started it...makes sense to me.
I was crazy enough to look at some of the other facts.
I'll learn yet...

Stephen Okula

3 posts

8/31/2018 2:08 PM

Trevor Monreal said:
Stephen Okula, CGCS said: The personal animosity between McCain and Trump was initiated by Trump, "He's not a war hero," said Trump. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

So Trump started it...makes sense to me.
I was crazy enough to look at some of the other facts.
I'll learn yet...

What other facts? Do you have facts?

Steven Huffstutler

11 posts

8/31/2018 5:08 PM

Ron, I'm assuming that you never served since you repeatedly misspelled the word Sergeant and I want to make clear that I don't appreciate it when people who couldn't be bothered to serve try to speak for those of us that did. I am not all offended by the act of football players kneeling. Free expression of ideas is what we served for.
The disrespect that our President has showed toward Sen. McCain is much more egregious than any kneeling display at a football game.
I generally disagreed with Sen. McCain and I didn't vote for him but I always respected him. He served his country with a loyalty that our President has never shown. McCain flew 23 missions in Viet Nam, I'm guessing Trump didn't fly that many.
Our President managed to avoid service but now he pretends to love us. I'm not buying his line of bullshit or your feeble defense of his cowardly actions.

Regards,

Steve

Steven Kurta

2 posts

9/1/2018 11:09 AM

Here's another one I'm having a time with..can't understand what happens to a person where they lose their moral compass and go against their own self interests.

Maybe Trevor or the cap'n can steer me right on this one..
Please to explain the hypocrisy and why you personally can overlook such obvious blatant pathological lying and dishonest behavior..how do you rectify it in your minds to make it work? No joke I really want to know how you adjust your blinders to it?

Without bringing up Obama or Hillary, can you juxtapose Trump's comments on Cruz (and vice versa) to the following announcement to support Cruz...

Click for video:
https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/ ... 20418?s=09

Trevor Monreal

5 posts

9/3/2018 12:09 PM

Stephen Okula, CGCS said: What other facts? Do you have facts?

Facts showing they didn't care too much for each other...plenty of them out there

Steven Kurta said: Here's another one I'm having a time with..can't understand what happens to a person where they lose their moral compass and go against their own self interests.
Maybe Trevor or the cap'n can steer me right on this one..
Please to explain the hypocrisy and why you personally can overlook such obvious blatant pathological lying and dishonest behavior..how do you rectify it in your minds to make it work? No joke I really want to know how you adjust your blinders to it?
Without bringing up Obama or Hillary, can you juxtapose Trump's comments on Cruz (and vice versa) to the following announcement to support Cruz...

Why would it take "blinders" for this one. Every senate seat is important. Cruz only leads by one point.
President Trump and Cruz both think this would be helpful for his campaign.
This can't possibly be the first bit of "hypocrisy" you've witnessed during a campaign!
Hypocrisy and campaigns go hand in hand.
Including the campaigns of those whose names I was asked to not "bring up".

Stephen Okula

3 posts

9/3/2018 12:09 PM

Trevor Monreal said:
Stephen Okula, CGCS said: What other facts? Do you have facts?

Facts showing they didn't care too much for each other...plenty of them out there

Good answer. I can't argue with that.

Steven Kurta

2 posts

9/4/2018 4:09 AM

Got it..
Hypocrisy good

Thanks, Trevor, knocked it out of the park.

Stephen Ravenkamp

1 posts

9/4/2018 12:09 PM

I want to echo Steve Hufstutler's comments. I could not agree with him more. And, yes, I served (27 years)

Steven Huffstutler

11 posts

9/5/2018 4:09 PM

Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: I want to echo Steve Hufstutler's comments. I could not agree with him more. And, yes, I served (27 years)

Thank you for your service.
I did 22 years and retired because I didn't want to take another set of orders and move. So after being retired for a couple years,naturally, I moved to Florida.
After being in the same house here for 7 years, my wife made the remark that it seemed like it was time to move.

Regards,

Steve

Stephen Ravenkamp

1 posts

9/6/2018 7:09 AM

I know the feeling. When I hit the three year mark I start wondering where I will go next. Been here almost 6 years...nearly a record!

Ronald Kirkman

40 posts

9/9/2018 1:09 PM

Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said: Ron, I'm assuming that you never served since you repeatedly misspelled the word Sergeant and I want to make clear that I don't appreciate it when people who couldn't be bothered to serve try to speak for those of us that did. I am not all offended by the act of football players kneeling. Free expression of ideas is what we served for.
The disrespect that our President has showed toward Sen. McCain is much more egregious than any kneeling display at a football game.stut
I generally disagreed with Sen. McCain and I didn't vote for him but I always respected him. He served his country with a loyalty that our President has never shown. McCain flew 23 missions in Viet Nam, I'm guessing Trump didn't fly that many.
Our President managed to avoid service but now he pretends to love us. I'm not buying his line of !%@*x& or your feeble defense of his cowardly actions.

Regards,

Steve

Mr. Steven Huffstutler;

You assume right. I never served and I apologize to the veterans out there that I misspelled Sergeant. Since my Sub Dural Hematoma - at times it gets difficult at best when I start writing and looking up words in the dictionary for correct spelling. By the way, twice in sentences you said our President with a capital P. It should have been a small p for president.

Now, I want to make it clear that there were many who tried to enlist but for reasons only known to us why we were rejected. You say " I don't appreciate it when people who couldn't be bothered to serve try to speak for those of us that did." Not on my post or any other on the GCSAA Forums have I ever seen or heard that.

You say you are not offended by football players kneeling during the National Anthem. Free expressions of ideas is what we served for. I wonder if that includes two of my great, great, great grandfathers who fought in The Revolutionary War.

You said you liked & respected McCain but generally disagreed with him and you did not vote for him. I voted for McCain. You said McCain flew 23 missions in Viet Nam and your guessing Trump didn't fly that many. I can answer your question, he flew as many missions as Obama did. You say the president managed to avoid service but now he pretends to love us. I'm not buying his line of BS or your feeble defense of of his cowardly actions. Wonder who you voted for or if you voted at all. Also wonder the same thing when you did not vote for McCain. You don't speak only about me but also the 60 + million that voted for him. Yes, we love our president and back him 100%.

You have about 27 months to go before you can vote for another president. Trump will still have his base with him. Don't know who will run on the do nothing democratic side.

Capt. Kirk
Retired Alien
Needham Golf Club
Needham, MA

Steven Huffstutler

11 posts

9/10/2018 7:09 AM

Since you insist on working Obama into every conversation, Obama wasn't old enough for Viet Nam, Trump was.

Regards,

Steve

Frank McQuiggan

2 posts

9/10/2018 8:09 AM

Just my 2 cents, I think a requirement for running for office of president should be that they served in the military for at least 4 years active duty. Be it during war or peace time. How can you lead something you have never been a part of? You can't, so it doesn't matter who your talking about be it Trump or Obama, neither can say they know squat about the military people because neither one lived it. Just my opinion of course

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