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Hey Capt. still lovin' the Trumpster?

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  1. Ronald Conard
    Ronald Conard avatar
    4 posts
    8/1/2017 10:08 AM
    Captain, et al

    Thoughts? Is this still just a witch hunt?

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-dictated-son%E2%80%99s-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/ar-AApdk8c


    And what about conservatives Senators like Flake? Do you agree or disagree with his thoughts? Is he now less of an American and true conservative?

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ump-215442



  2. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    8/1/2017 3:08 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said: Captain, et al

    Thoughts? Is this still just a witch hunt?

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-dictated-son%E2%80%99s-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/ar-AApdk8c


    And what about conservatives Senators like Flake? Do you agree or disagree with his thoughts? Is he now less of an American and true conservative?

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ump-215442


    Greetings Mr. Conard

    I am with Mr. Trump still 100%.

    Yes, it is still a witch hunt and I don't like Mueller. "I think I told you that I would accept what Mr. Mueller may accuse Trump of dealings with Russia." Ten months and still nothing. I changed my mind. Comey should be punished for leaking stuff out to his college friend to put it in the N.Y.T. knowing he would get Mueller on board. Mueller hired three democratic lawyers that donated money to Hillary Clinton. 99.9 % of money donated went for the democrats and only .01 % went to the republicans.

    As far as Obamacare goes, let it ride and come back another time when the democrats want to help out. After all, they started Obamacare. I have heard it is good for some people and really bad for other people.

    Remember the democrats could not even take care of our veterans. And, many of them were stealing and screwed up vet hospitals.

    Dr. Evelyn Farkas informed MSNBC that Susan Rice former National Security Advisor was encouraging officials of Obama's administration to gather as much information on intelligence as possible on Trump and his staff before Obama leaves office.

    Republicans are now only starting looking into all the shady deals the democrats did.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  3. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    8/13/2017 9:08 AM
    Still? Even though he will go off on everyone else but fails to call out the white supremacists specifically as the terrorists they are???

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/trump-fails-to-condemn-the-alt-right-white-supremacists/index.html

    We're talking Nazism here and we spilled a lot of blood fighting it. Are you good with glossing over it and not calling it out by name?



  4. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    8/13/2017 7:08 PM
    Hello Mr. Conard;

    I seldom talk politics any longer and I don't know what went on in Virginia over the weekend. However, no matter what you are and who you are you have the first amendments rights in this country. Until that is changed we have nothing to bitch about.

    If somebody wants to wear a Nazi Uniform, or a KKK outfit, or fly a Confederate Flag, or carry a placard saying Black Lives Matter - Kill a Pig (meaning cop) that is their right. It may not be the proper thing to do but according to our Constitution it is their right!

    I still back Mr. Trump - he is not a polished politician nor is he a crooked politician or a Bull Shi* politician. OK, I admit he should buy North Korea off and hug the leaders. After all, Mr. Clinton gave them 4 billion dollars and Mr. Obama gave them 8 billion dollars. Certainly, we can give 12 Billion Dollars to North Korea or any other country that threatens world peace.

    However, that does not even come close to what the USA gives of taxpayers money to the Illegal Aliens in this country. Now you have me drifting again. And, Larry ( Red) will be coming after me!!!

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  5. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    8/16/2017 6:08 AM
    Capt

    No sense in name calling now. Just embarrassment for you. I'm sorry for you.
    I'm afraid you're too old to change. There's no incentive for the olds to keep up and stay engaged. Easier to turn on Limbaugh and tune out the inevitable.

    And not saying the inevitable is going to be kind or pleasant..it most definitely won't be.

    Disable hate. Don't help support it. Choose better.



  6. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    8/16/2017 9:08 PM
    Steven Kurta said: Capt

    Disable hate. Don't help support it. Choose better.


    I'm not going to speak for the Capt., but I've met the guy. Played 9 holes with him at his place and took him for a nickel. Pretty sure he doesn't hate anybody. Nor do I. Nor does Trump.



  7. Steven Kurta
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    8/17/2017 3:08 AM
    I too, wish it was as simple as that.



  8. John Moore
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    8/17/2017 6:08 PM
    Donald Trump became president because the people of this country were tired of the same old emphasis being placed on the tiniest of fringe groups getting all the attention. How many mandates were forced upon the citizens that would simply watch in amazement as their rights were trampled on to serve such a tiny fraction of the culture. The police came under fire as they tried to deal with an out of control opioid crisis. illegal aliens became undocumented tax paying workers. leftist groups intolerant of anything conservative would attack (Berkeley) because it didn't feel cozy to them. You have CNN, MSNBC, Washington post, New York times. Any utterance of anything coming from Trump is ridiculed. Hillary Clinton was the most vile candidate that could have been presented to the American people. She came out of the womb thinking she was destined. Face it! We deserve Trump! Washington has been so divided for years and hopefully these next couple years will reveal the poison of the establishment and the American people will finally understand that you shouldn't trample on the rights of middle America and the undereducated because it makes you feel better.



  9. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    8/17/2017 8:08 PM
    Greetings:

    Mr. Bowman, thanks for coming to my defense. It was not necessary but I do appreciate your kind words. By the way, we played 18 holes that day and it took you all of 18 to win that nickel.

    The television networks HATE Mr. Trump and they have been de-grading him since he took office on January 20, 2017. The Left and Democrats and Liberals and some Republicans all HATE our president and they will say and do anything, even lie to destroy Mr. Trump. I'm sure we have many in the golf industry that hate Mr. Trump.

    Democrats think they finally can bring down Trump after Charlottesville. Violence may have been prevented that day but a judge did not listen to the permit holders to change the location and the Governor, Mayor, or Police Chief did nothing either.

    I wonder when all the books, newspaper articles, records and all the other information will be used in a big bonfire to erase the Civil War from our minds and from our history books. I guess that is a subject for another day.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  10. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    8/18/2017 3:08 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Hello Mr. Conard;

    I still back Mr. Trump - he is not a polished politician nor is he a crooked politician or a Bull Shi* politician.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Not a B.S. politician? You can NOT be serious.

    Here is a list of lies he has told just since becoming President in January and up to July.

    Jan. 21 "I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Jan. 21 "A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine." (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) Jan. 23 "Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote." (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) Jan. 25 "Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive." (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) Jan. 25 "Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)" (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) Jan. 25 "You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore." (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) Jan. 25 "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that." (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) Jan. 26 "We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't." (Vetting lasts up to two years.) Jan. 26 "I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better." (Most of the cuts were already planned.) Jan. 28 "The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers." (It never apologized.) Jan. 29 "The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote." (There is no support for this.) Jan. 30 "Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage." (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) Feb. 3 "Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) Feb. 4 "After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!" (It never apologized.) Feb. 5 "We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully." (About 60,000 people were affected.) Feb. 6 "I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35." (Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.) Feb. 6 "It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it." (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.) Feb. 6 "The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!" (It didn't apologize.) Feb. 6 "And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed." (The group's origins date to 2004.) Feb. 7 "And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years." (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.) Feb. 7 "I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35." (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.) Feb. 9 "Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service' in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!" (It was part of Cuomo's first question.) Feb. 9 "Sen. Richard Blumenthal now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?" (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.) Feb. 10 "I don't know about it. I haven't seen it. What report is that?" (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.) Feb. 12 "Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!" (The media did cover it.) Feb. 16 "We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan." (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.) Feb. 16 "That's the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports." (Delta's problems happened two days later.) Feb. 16 "Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives." (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.) Feb. 16 "When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they're not giving classified information." (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.) Feb. 16 "We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision." (The rollout was chaotic.) Feb. 16 "They're giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates." (It was widely covered.) Feb. 18 "And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing." (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.) Feb. 18 "You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?" (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) Feb. 24 "By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks." (There was no evidence of long lines.) Feb. 24 "ICE came and endorsed me." (Only its union did.) Feb. 24 "Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them." (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.) Feb. 27 "Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges." (Many fewer pulled out.) Feb. 27 "On one plane, on a small order of one plane, I saved $725 million. And I would say I devoted about, if I added it up, all those calls, probably about an hour. So I think that might be my highest and best use." (Much of the price cut was already projected.) Feb. 28 "And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that." (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.) Feb. 28 "The E.P.A.'s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands." (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.) Feb. 28 "We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials." (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.) March 3 "It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approvedmy full Cabinet." (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.) March 4 "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.) March 4 "How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.) March 7 "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!" (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.) March 13 "I saved a lot of money on those jets, didn't I? Did I do a good job? More than $725 million on them." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 13 "First of all, it covers very few people." (About 20 million people gained insurance under Obamacare.) March 15 "On the airplanes, I saved $725 million. Probably took me a half an hour if you added up all of the times." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 17 "I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company." (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.) March 20 "With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the taxpayers of our country over $700 million." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 21 "To save taxpayer dollars, I've already begun negotiating better contracts for the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of which there are many sets." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 22 "I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems." (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.) March 22 "NATO, obsolete, because it doesn't cover terrorism. They fixed that." (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.) March 22 "Well, now, if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly they register wrong — in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly and/or illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people." (There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.) March 29 "Remember when the failing @nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!" (It didn't apologize.) March 31 "We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn't win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone." (These investments were already planned.) April 2 "And I was totally opposed to the war in the Middle East which I think finally has been proven, people tried very hard to say I wasn't but you've seen that it is now improving." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) April 2 "Now, my last tweet — you know, the one that you are talking about, perhaps — was the one about being, in quotes, wiretapped, meaning surveilled. Guess what, it is turning out to be true." (There is still no evidence.) April 5 "You have many states coming up where they're going to have no insurance company. O.K.? It's already happened in Tennessee. It's happening in Kentucky. Tennessee only has half coverage. Half the state is gone. They left." (Every marketplace region in Tennessee had at least one insurer.) April 6 "If you look at the kind of cost-cutting we've been able to achieve with the military and at the same time ordering vast amounts of equipment — saved hundreds of millions of dollars on airplanes, and really billions, because if you take that out over a period of years it's many billions of dollars — I think we've had a tremendous success." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.) April 11 "I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve." (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.) April 12 "You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through." (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.) April 12 "The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized." (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.) April 12 "The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism." (NATO has been engaged in counterterrorism efforts since the 1980s.) April 12 "Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died." (The campaign was expected to take months.) April 16 "Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!" (There's no evidence of paid protesters.) April 18 "The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.' I haven't changed my stance." (He did.) April 21 "On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.) April 21 "When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it." (He criticized it as early as 2010.) April 27 "I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare." (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.) April 28 "The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it's $17 billion trade deficit with Canada." (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.) April 28 "She's running againstsomeone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime." (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.) April 28 "The F-35 fighter jet program — it was way over budget. I've saved $725 million plus, just by getting involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.) April 29 "I've already saved more than $725 million on a simple order of F-35 planes. I got involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe." (The deal was struck in 2014.) April 29 "When they talk about currency manipulation, and I did say I would call China, if they were, a currency manipulator, early in my tenure. And then I get there. Number one, they — as soon as I got elected, they stopped." (China stopped in 2014.) April 29 "I was negotiating to reduce the price of the big fighter jet contract, the F-35, which was totally out of control. I will save billions and billions and billions of dollars." (Most of the cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "I think our side's been proven very strongly. And everybody's talking about it." (There's still no evidence Trump's phones were tapped.) May 1 "Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare." (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.) May 1 "The F-35 fighter jet — I saved — I got involved in the negotiation. It's 2,500 jets. I negotiated for 90 planes, lot 10. I got $725 million off the price." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) May 1 "First of all, since I started running, they haven't increased their — you know, they have not manipulated their currency. I think that was out of respect to me and the campaign." (China stopped years ago.) May2 "I love buying those planes at a reduced price. I have been really — I have cut billions — I have to tell you this, and they can check, right, Martha? I have cut billions and billions of dollars off plane contracts sitting here." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) May 4 "Number two, they're actually not a currency [manipulator]. You know, since I've been talking about currency manipulation with respect to them and other countries, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.) May 4 "We're the highest-taxed nation in the world." (We're not.) May 4 "Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters." (Polls show most Americans do care.) May 8 "You know we've gotten billions of dollars more in NATO than we're getting. All because of me." (The deal was struck in 2014.) May 8 "But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he's ever had." (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.) May 8 "Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence' of collusion w/ Russia and Trump." (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.) May 12 "Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election." (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.) May 12 "When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?" (Clapper said he wouldn't have been told of an investigation into collusion.) May 13 "I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed." (The cost cuts were planned before he became president.) May 26 "Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs." (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.) June 1 "China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can't build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020." (The agreement doesn't allow or disallow building coal plants.) June 1 "I've just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs." (Trump's figures are inflated and premature.) June 4 "At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!'" (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.) June 5 "The Justice Dept. hould have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C." (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.) June 20 "Well, the Special Elections are over and those that want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN are 5 and O!" (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 21 "They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding." (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.) June 21 "Right now, we are one of the highest-taxed nations in the world." (We're not.) June 21 "You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands." (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.) June 21 "Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa." (They haven't.) June 21 "If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?" (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country's waters explicitly excludes puddles.) June 21 "Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way." (Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.) June 21 "We're 5 and 0." (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 21 "Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades." (Another coal mine opened in 2014.) June 22 "Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia." (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.) June 23 "We are 5 and 0 ... in these special elections." (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 27 "Ratings way down!" (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.) June 28 "Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up." (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.) June 29 "General Kelly and his whole group — they've gotten rid of 6,000 so far." (The real number of MS-13 gang members who have been deported is smaller.) July 6 "As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have begun to pour into NATO." (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.) July 17 "We've signed more bills — and I'm talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever." (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.) July 19 "Um, the Russian investigation — it's not an investigation, it's not on me — you know, they're looking at a lot of things." (It is.) July 19 "I heard that Harry Truman was first, and then we beat him. These are approved by Congress. These are not just executive orders." (Presidents Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. each had signed more legislation than Trump at the same point in their terms.) July 19 "But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting." (He reports directly to the attorney general.)

    And yesterday he lied about General PErshing executing mulims with bullets dipped in pigs' blood. The President is unhinged and out of touch with reality.



  11. Larry Allan
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    8/18/2017 4:08 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Greetings:

    Mr. Bowman, thanks for coming to my defense. It was not necessary but I do appreciate your kind words. By the way, we played 18 holes that day and it took you all of 18 to win that nickel.

    The television networks HATE Mr. Trump and they have been de-grading him since he took office on January 20, 2017. The Left and Democrats and Liberals and some Republicans all HATE our president and they will say and do anything, even lie to destroy Mr. Trump. I'm sure we have many in the golf industry that hate Mr. Trump.

    Democrats think they finally can bring down Trump after Charlottesville. Violence may have been prevented that day but a judge did not listen to the permit holders to change the location and the Governor, Mayor, or Police Chief did nothing either.

    I wonder when all the books, newspaper articles, records and all the other information will be used in a big bonfire to erase the Civil War from our minds and from our history books. I guess that is a subject for another day.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA

    Capt, we have to remember that there are some really outstanding people on both sides of the political and news media spectrum. There are two sdes.



  12. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    8/18/2017 6:08 AM
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said:
    Ronald Kirkman said: Hello Mr. Conard;

    I still back Mr. Trump - he is not a polished politician nor is he a crooked politician or a Bull Shi* politician.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Not a B.S. politician? You can NOT be serious.

    Here is a list of lies he has told just since becoming President in January and up to July.

    Jan. 21 "I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Jan. 21 "A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine." (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) Jan. 23 "Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote." (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) Jan. 25 "Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive." (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) Jan. 25 "Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)" (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) Jan. 25 "You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore." (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) Jan. 25 "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that." (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) Jan. 26 "We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't." (Vetting lasts up to two years.) Jan. 26 "I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better." (Most of the cuts were already planned.) Jan. 28 "The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers." (It never apologized.) Jan. 29 "The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote." (There is no support for this.) Jan. 30 "Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage." (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) Feb. 3 "Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) Feb. 4 "After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!" (It never apologized.) Feb. 5 "We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully." (About 60,000 people were affected.) Feb. 6 "I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35." (Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.) Feb. 6 "It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it." (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.) Feb. 6 "The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!" (It didn't apologize.) Feb. 6 "And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed." (The group's origins date to 2004.) Feb. 7 "And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years." (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.) Feb. 7 "I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35." (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.) Feb. 9 "Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service' in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!" (It was part of Cuomo's first question.) Feb. 9 "Sen. Richard Blumenthal now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?" (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.) Feb. 10 "I don't know about it. I haven't seen it. What report is that?" (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.) Feb. 12 "Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!" (The media did cover it.) Feb. 16 "We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan." (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.) Feb. 16 "That's the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports." (Delta's problems happened two days later.) Feb. 16 "Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives." (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.) Feb. 16 "When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they're not giving classified information." (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.) Feb. 16 "We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision." (The rollout was chaotic.) Feb. 16 "They're giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates." (It was widely covered.) Feb. 18 "And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing." (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.) Feb. 18 "You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?" (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) Feb. 24 "By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks." (There was no evidence of long lines.) Feb. 24 "ICE came and endorsed me." (Only its union did.) Feb. 24 "Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them." (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.) Feb. 27 "Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges." (Many fewer pulled out.) Feb. 27 "On one plane, on a small order of one plane, I saved $725 million. And I would say I devoted about, if I added it up, all those calls, probably about an hour. So I think that might be my highest and best use." (Much of the price cut was already projected.) Feb. 28 "And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that." (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.) Feb. 28 "The E.P.A.'s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands." (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.) Feb. 28 "We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials." (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.) March 3 "It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approvedmy full Cabinet." (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.) March 4 "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.) March 4 "How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.) March 7 "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!" (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.) March 13 "I saved a lot of money on those jets, didn't I? Did I do a good job? More than $725 million on them." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 13 "First of all, it covers very few people." (About 20 million people gained insurance under Obamacare.) March 15 "On the airplanes, I saved $725 million. Probably took me a half an hour if you added up all of the times." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 17 "I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company." (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.) March 20 "With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the taxpayers of our country over $700 million." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 21 "To save taxpayer dollars, I've already begun negotiating better contracts for the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of which there are many sets." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) March 22 "I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems." (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.) March 22 "NATO, obsolete, because it doesn't cover terrorism. They fixed that." (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.) March 22 "Well, now, if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly they register wrong — in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly and/or illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people." (There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.) March 29 "Remember when the failing @nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!" (It didn't apologize.) March 31 "We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn't win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone." (These investments were already planned.) April 2 "And I was totally opposed to the war in the Middle East which I think finally has been proven, people tried very hard to say I wasn't but you've seen that it is now improving." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) April 2 "Now, my last tweet — you know, the one that you are talking about, perhaps — was the one about being, in quotes, wiretapped, meaning surveilled. Guess what, it is turning out to be true." (There is still no evidence.) April 5 "You have many states coming up where they're going to have no insurance company. O.K.? It's already happened in Tennessee. It's happening in Kentucky. Tennessee only has half coverage. Half the state is gone. They left." (Every marketplace region in Tennessee had at least one insurer.) April 6 "If you look at the kind of cost-cutting we've been able to achieve with the military and at the same time ordering vast amounts of equipment — saved hundreds of millions of dollars on airplanes, and really billions, because if you take that out over a period of years it's many billions of dollars — I think we've had a tremendous success." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.) April 11 "I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve." (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.) April 12 "You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through." (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.) April 12 "The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized." (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.) April 12 "The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism." (NATO has been engaged in counterterrorism efforts since the 1980s.) April 12 "Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died." (The campaign was expected to take months.) April 16 "Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!" (There's no evidence of paid protesters.) April 18 "The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.' I haven't changed my stance." (He did.) April 21 "On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.) April 21 "When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it." (He criticized it as early as 2010.) April 27 "I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare." (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.) April 28 "The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it's $17 billion trade deficit with Canada." (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.) April 28 "She's running againstsomeone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime." (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.) April 28 "The F-35 fighter jet program — it was way over budget. I've saved $725 million plus, just by getting involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.) April 29 "I've already saved more than $725 million on a simple order of F-35 planes. I got involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe." (The deal was struck in 2014.) April 29 "When they talk about currency manipulation, and I did say I would call China, if they were, a currency manipulator, early in my tenure. And then I get there. Number one, they — as soon as I got elected, they stopped." (China stopped in 2014.) April 29 "I was negotiating to reduce the price of the big fighter jet contract, the F-35, which was totally out of control. I will save billions and billions and billions of dollars." (Most of the cuts were planned before Trump.) April 29 "I think our side's been proven very strongly. And everybody's talking about it." (There's still no evidence Trump's phones were tapped.) May 1 "Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare." (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.) May 1 "The F-35 fighter jet — I saved — I got involved in the negotiation. It's 2,500 jets. I negotiated for 90 planes, lot 10. I got $725 million off the price." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.) May 1 "First of all, since I started running, they haven't increased their — you know, they have not manipulated their currency. I think that was out of respect to me and the campaign." (China stopped years ago.) May2 "I love buying those planes at a reduced price. I have been really — I have cut billions — I have to tell you this, and they can check, right, Martha? I have cut billions and billions of dollars off plane contracts sitting here." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.) May 4 "Number two, they're actually not a currency [manipulator]. You know, since I've been talking about currency manipulation with respect to them and other countries, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.) May 4 "We're the highest-taxed nation in the world." (We're not.) May 4 "Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters." (Polls show most Americans do care.) May 8 "You know we've gotten billions of dollars more in NATO than we're getting. All because of me." (The deal was struck in 2014.) May 8 "But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he's ever had." (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.) May 8 "Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence' of collusion w/ Russia and Trump." (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.) May 12 "Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election." (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.) May 12 "When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?" (Clapper said he wouldn't have been told of an investigation into collusion.) May 13 "I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed." (The cost cuts were planned before he became president.) May 26 "Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs." (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.) June 1 "China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can't build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020." (The agreement doesn't allow or disallow building coal plants.) June 1 "I've just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs." (Trump's figures are inflated and premature.) June 4 "At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!'" (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.) June 5 "The Justice Dept. hould have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C." (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.) June 20 "Well, the Special Elections are over and those that want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN are 5 and O!" (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 21 "They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding." (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.) June 21 "Right now, we are one of the highest-taxed nations in the world." (We're not.) June 21 "You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands." (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.) June 21 "Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa." (They haven't.) June 21 "If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?" (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country's waters explicitly excludes puddles.) June 21 "Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way." (Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.) June 21 "We're 5 and 0." (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 21 "Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades." (Another coal mine opened in 2014.) June 22 "Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia." (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.) June 23 "We are 5 and 0 ... in these special elections." (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) June 27 "Ratings way down!" (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.) June 28 "Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up." (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.) June 29 "General Kelly and his whole group — they've gotten rid of 6,000 so far." (The real number of MS-13 gang members who have been deported is smaller.) July 6 "As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have begun to pour into NATO." (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.) July 17 "We've signed more bills — and I'm talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever." (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.) July 19 "Um, the Russian investigation — it's not an investigation, it's not on me — you know, they're looking at a lot of things." (It is.) July 19 "I heard that Harry Truman was first, and then we beat him. These are approved by Congress. These are not just executive orders." (Presidents Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. each had signed more legislation than Trump at the same point in their terms.) July 19 "But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting." (He reports directly to the attorney general.)

    And yesterday he lied about General PErshing executing mulims with bullets dipped in pigs' blood. The President is unhinged and out of touch with reality.



    Stephen,

    Now I see why we hadn't heard from you in a week or so. You've been up late doing all that research.



  13. Steven Kurta
    Steven Kurta avatar
    2 posts
    8/18/2017 10:08 AM
    ...on second thought


    /edited

    It isn't worth it.



  14. Ronald Conard
    Ronald Conard avatar
    4 posts
    8/18/2017 11:08 AM
    John B Moore said: Donald Trump became president because the people of this country were tired of the same old emphasis being placed on the tiniest of fringe groups getting all the attention. How many mandates were forced upon the citizens that would simply watch in amazement as their rights were trampled on to serve such a tiny fraction of the culture. The police came under fire as they tried to deal with an out of control opioid crisis. illegal aliens became undocumented tax paying workers. leftist groups intolerant of anything conservative would attack (Berkeley) because it didn't feel cozy to them. You have CNN, MSNBC, Washington post, New York times. Any utterance of anything coming from Trump is ridiculed. Hillary Clinton was the most vile candidate that could have been presented to the American people. She came out of the womb thinking she was destined. Face it! We deserve Trump! Washington has been so divided for years and hopefully these next couple years will reveal the poison of the establishment and the American people will finally understand that you shouldn't trample on the rights of middle America and the undereducated because it makes you feel better.


    I will agree Hillary was a dog of a candidate. I'll also agree that Trump tapped into the angry white man vote and between Hillary's repulsiveness and Trump's ability to attract the angry white male we ended up with.....an angry leader. Bird's of a feather right? The problem is it never ends well with an angry leader. Hitler was angry, Al-Bagdhadi is (was) angry.

    All that said, what does Hillary and the media have to do with Trump's performance as President? He tweets his tweets and makes his press conferences or are those fake too? They are the record and he owns them. As Trump continues to play to his base and fan the flames of hate (i.e. drawing a moral equivalent between Nazis and the KKK with those counter-protesting their presence) and drives a wedge into our society, the end result is not going to be good. I said tanks would roll at some point during his Presidency and not necessarily in a foreign land. What we really are talking about is the ignorant, uneducated white folk you are talking about are afraid of losing the power of the white man. That's typical of ignorance. It's afraid of change and others that are different. Trump has tapped into that fear. But what he and his followers fail to realize is that hate has a tendency to recoil. It never does create peace. The only thing that it creates is violence and a fractured society. Drop it and see what happens.

    Trump could have came into office without such a combative attitude. He had a window to win over a lot of people sitting on the fence. As you say he had a lot of the country behind him. Now, he's lost any chance of cooperation from the powers he need to cooperate with him. That can't be blamed on the media. He's done it to himself.



  15. Keith Lamb
    Keith Lamb avatar
    3 posts
    8/18/2017 2:08 PM
    [youtube">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IArYdzIK2Fg[/youtube">



  16. Ronald Kirkman
    Ronald Kirkman avatar
    40 posts
    8/18/2017 7:08 PM
    Greetings;

    I will go on record to say that Mr. Donald Trump will have a very successful presidency and probably the best ever.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf club
    Needham, MA



  17. Stephen Okula
    Stephen Okula avatar
    3 posts
    8/19/2017 12:08 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Greetings;

    I will go on record to say that Mr. Donald Trump will have a very successful presidency and probably the best ever.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf club
    Needham, MA


    I'm sure that whatever happens Trump will claim it to be so, anyway.



  18. Ronald Conard
    Ronald Conard avatar
    4 posts
    8/19/2017 6:08 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Greetings;

    I will go on record to say that Mr. Donald Trump will have a very successful presidency and probably the best ever.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf club
    Needham, MA



    When is that going to start happening?



  19. Ronald Kirkman
    Ronald Kirkman avatar
    40 posts
    8/19/2017 12:08 PM
    Greetings;

    Mr. Okula CGCS - Trump will claim it to be so and he will be right.

    Mr. Conard CGCS - As soon as Larry tells me the outstanding politicians on the other side including the news media.

    Capt. Kirk



  20. Steven Kurta
    Steven Kurta avatar
    2 posts
    8/31/2017 5:08 AM
    The Brainwashing of my Dad - film trailer

    https://youtu.be/Qh3TeTxgNVo

    I'm lucky my Mom and Dad still have their his wits about them. Sad to see good people tricked into believing there's an enemy or bogeyman instead of teaching them about anthropology, socioeconomics, and religious and philosophical theories. Hate and fear sell better.



  21. Larry Allan
    Larry Allan avatar
    0 posts
    10/14/2017 10:10 AM
    DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these
    features:
    • Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
    • Expecting to be recognized as superior even without
    achievements that warrant it
    • Exaggerating your achievements and talents
    • Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power,
    brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
    • Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by
    or associate with equally special people
    • Requiring constant admiration
    • Having a sense of entitlement
    • Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with
    your expectations
    • Taking advantage of others to get what you want
    • Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs
    and feelings of others
    • Being envious of others and believing others envy you
    • Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner



  22. Ronald Kirkman
    Ronald Kirkman avatar
    40 posts
    10/15/2017 10:10 PM
    Hi Larry;

    It is true what you are saying about the Democrats. I'm happy to hear from a gentleman from another country who realizes that these Democrats in the U.S. have some kind of a" Narcissistic Personality Disorder."

    By the way, Mr. Mueller and his associates are still trying to find something on Mr. Trump in collusion with Russia. I think he has about 13 to 16 lawyers on the case racking up millions of dollars at the taxpayers expense. And, they are all Democrats who gave money to their co - horts when running for office. They have found nothing!!

    Well, lets hope the Democrats and some Republicans will come to their senses and help Mr. Trump achieve his goals to make America Great Again.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  23. Ronald Kirkman
    Ronald Kirkman avatar
    40 posts
    10/24/2017 10:10 PM
    Greetings;

    What do you think now Mr. Conard ! How about throwing all those dirty BASTARDS in jail where they belong. I don't have anything else to say on this subject right now. I'm sure you can read about it in the papers and see it on the news. However, I'm sure their will be those TV announcers that will deny everything that is said about the crooks from Obama down, you know them all.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  24. Steven Kurta
    Steven Kurta avatar
    2 posts
    10/25/2017 4:10 AM
    But wait! WaPo and NYT are fake news...because they only report negative Trump blah blah blah...

    Past your bedtime, Capt.

    We get it, you're a trumpkin...

    Politics is a contact sport and The Clinton's are dirty and gross....and that's why we need a man like Trump because he's an outsider...right? Except when he's dirty and gross because then, he's being a shrewd businessman, right?

    Got it.

    Thanks, genius.

    The problem with pointing out hypocrisy in politics is you usually end up pointing at yourself.
    It exists. They're pros at it, and this has always been America.
    Unfortunately for Trump he's dealing with the Clinton Foundation, who likely will bury him over time.

    How bout that Russia, eh? Nice job Ivan. Played us all like rubes. We deserve it.

    [img">https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/cybernations/images/7/72/Russian_Federation_Flag.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/484?cb=20100304223021[/img">


    Try sleepytime. It's delicious.



  25. Ronald Conard
    Ronald Conard avatar
    4 posts
    10/25/2017 7:10 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Greetings;

    What do you think now Mr. Conard ! How about throwing all those dirty BASTARDS in jail where they belong. I don't have anything else to say on this subject right now. I'm sure you can read about it in the papers and see it on the news. However, I'm sure their will be those TV announcers that will deny everything that is said about the crooks from Obama down, you know them all.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Capt.,

    I'm guessing you missed this quote of mine:

    "If officials from either party are ultimately found to be involved in one way or another then they all need to be charged. I would suggest charged with treason and bear the full brunt of the law. "

    In this thread:

    http://forums.gcsaa.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6219&p=45111#p45111



  26. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    10/27/2017 4:10 PM
    Steven Kurta said:

    The problem with pointing out hypocrisy in politics is you usually end up pointing at yourself. This is the most concise and profound comment on this message board. Nicely done, Mr. Steve.

    Unfortunately for Trump he's dealing with the Clinton Foundation, who likely will bury him over time. This will be interesting to watch play out. Don Trump comes off as a bumbling boob, but no one can deny he has, somehow, managed to come out on top at every turn. Starting back when BO made Trump the butt of his joke at the correspondence dinner, to the primaries, to the general election and on and on. He's the luckiest person on the planet or has incredible foresight and strategy.


    .



  27. Steven Kurta
    Steven Kurta avatar
    2 posts
    10/27/2017 8:10 PM
    He knows what he's doing.

    He's not stupid.

    He's a populist who's cashing in on folks who think they've been forgotten.

    I don't think they're wrong for feeling what they feel, but I think he's the wrong person to bring them what they want. Largely because what they think they want is gone for good for reasons that are beyond any president or congress' control.
    That better choices weren't made by the GOP voter I kinda get, but it's like they threw their arms up and went Trump? WHY NOT!?
    But that's Americans for you. We're wacky.

    He can't harm anything. Hell make a bunch of folks mad. He'll empower white nationalist bigots and idiot neo nazis that wave the Confederate flags around. But they would do that stupid stuff with or without Trump. Stupid's gonna stupid.

    Hillary also the wrong choice and should've never been considered.

    I've felt from the beginning of this cycle that the Dems should've just taken a powder and run a loser and let the GOP run a legit candidate. It was time. Give them the white house.. but by running Clinton it forced Trump to the top. If she hadn't been there as a threat, a more qualified andidate would've emerged.



  28. Steven Kurta
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    11/8/2017 5:11 AM
    Sorry, Virginians. Hope your deaths aren't too painful at the hands of MS-13.



  29. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    11/8/2017 5:11 AM
    Steven Kurta said: Sorry, Virginians. Hope your deaths aren't too painful at the hands of MS-13.


    Long islanders: I'm sorry yours were.



  30. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    11/8/2017 8:11 AM
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said:
    Long islanders: I'm sorry yours were.


    lighten up, Francis



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