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Is there anyone out there who still denies global warming?

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  1. Ronald Conard
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    8/18/2016 12:08 PM



  2. Steven Huffstutler
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    8/18/2016 12:08 PM
    Oh, man.....that's a lot of bait. I cant wait to see who bites.

    Steve



  3. Larry Allan
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    8/18/2016 1:08 PM
    Some glaciers are getting bigger I heard.
    Also we are entering a new time were peace and love will take over. All debts will be forgiven and there will be a balancing of the halves and have nots.
    We will all be moving to Agartha, the middle earth where the climate is perfect all year round.
    I recently received these blessings:

    Greetings from Telos! I AM ADAMA, Ascended Master and High Priest of Telos, a Subterranean City beneath Mt. Shasta in California. I am dictating this message to you from my home beneath the Earth, where over a million of us live in perpetual peace and prosperity.

    We are Human and physical just as you, except for the fact that our mass consciousness holds thoughts of only Immortality and Perfect Health. Therefore, we can live hundreds and even thousands of years in the same body. I, myself, have been in the same body now for over 600 years.

    Jesus is also making himself known through the internet with channelers . The following was his New years message:
    Greetings. I am Jesus Sananda, brother of Love, Master of the 7th Dimension, Master of Unconditional Love, Master of the Magenta Flame, kindred spirit, physical brother, embodiment, many times, of physicality and the joy, the challenge, the trial, and the gift of being alive. Welcome my beloveds and you have been the family of my soul, of my core of my being forever. Welcome brave hearts, sweet Annas, wayshowers, pathfinders, sweet Gaians.

    And welcome to this year of 2016 in your time and in the Mother's New Time, and in this year which we will term ‘a year of extraordinary change'. Yes, I will explain. But before I proceed, is it not worthwhile to take a moment and to reflect back ever so slightly at what has been achieved, accomplished, and integrated in this past year of 2015?

    Sweet angels of light, you have done stalwart work. Has it been a year where you have practiced and become more patient, more wise, more compassionate, more understanding, and more deeply, deeply in love…yes, with us, with the universe, with each other, but most importantly, with your sacred self?

    The Mother has spoken, taught, and demonstrated a great deal about sacred union and the true meaning of sacred union within and without. But without the deepening of this love affair with your sacred self, all of Her words have no meaning.

    But that is not what has occurred, for you have accepted, you have grabbed, you have integrated all the downloads that have been sent to thee. You have welcomed the shift, the change, and the deepest levels of integration. And now you are ready, you are past ready, and you say to me, "Lord, what next?" And what I say to you beloveds is, "Hold on to your hats, hold on to your socks, and unfurl your wings!"

    "You have come to this beloved planet of Gaia initially as masters-in-the-making, but you have claimed and stepped forward, allowed and accepted, and surrendered to your mastery. And so now you wonder, with mental and emotional bodies, what's next, where are we going? You have challenged and you have cleared many of your core issues, enough that you have the essence of clarity needed to proceed. And proceed we do…hand in hand, heart in heart, wing in wing, interdimensionally, for it is no longer sufficient, acceptable, and certainly not fun to be limited, shackled, and jailed in what remains of the old 3rd or even the beautiful, pristine, clear new 3rd of physicality.

    Now my friends, often you have thought ‘now we will proceed to this plane or that plane, we'll work on the emotional plane, the mental plane, we will deal with magic and alchemy and change'. What I come to speak of today, for this new time, is the intertwining, the integration of All. That is why, when I have spoken of who I am, I speak of the 7th dimension – the dimension of Love – the half-way point between the 1st dimensions and the higher dimensions or what you tend to think of as the higher dimensions. And the 7th is the place, the Home of Love, but it is also the point, if you wish to think of it as a place, a state of being, of integration.

    But what is this integration that I speak of about? How does this reality that I am inviting you to, new reality, new time, new realm of existence, new you, how does this exhibit? What does it look like and taste like and feel like? How do you live there?

    So often we speak of ‘Love' and yes, we know the channel's joke that all we ever speak of is love, love, love, love, but that is the truth for that is the essence, the microcosm, the macrocosm of the entire universe. It is the essence of our beloved Mother and Father. It is the integrated source of All.

    But, what is Love? So often we have said to thee, "Well it is peace, it is serenity, it is bliss, it is ecstasy, it is knowing, it is wisdom." But how you come to know Love is through experiential existence. And it doesn't matter whether it is in the 1st dimension or the 12th dimension. How you experience Love is how you know it even when it is simply a gentle pulsing or an outrageous ecstasy within your heart, your being.

    So, you tend to think of the Father as ‘the great silence', as the Unknowable Source. But He is Love. The Mother as ‘the movement', ‘the nurturer', the Creator Source. And She is Love. But it is an act of will, an energy as you would think of it, of will from the very core of Source that activates, moves the Mother, conjoins with the Mother into movement, creation, and action.

    This is what you are doing. You are being activated at the deepest and the highest integration of Love and Will. And the expression of that divine union is action, it is action within, the action of loving and being gentle and being kind and nurturing to your beloved, divine and human and inter-multidimensional self…all aspects, all lives, all forms. And it is the expression and the action of Love in the external reality, with us, with your star family and far beyond, with the realm of the angelics, the Archangelics, the masters, the enlightened ones, the sheer energies, and each other. The work that you have done brings you to this place where, by an act of Loving Will, you are prepared to move forth, right now, in action.

    And what is the expression, what is the knowing, the experience of this action? It is joy, it is bliss, and ultimately it is ecstasy. It is the integration of all of you, all aspects, in union with All…with all of humanity and with All. That is where you are headed and have already begun because there has been some work, some ground work, for this. Yes, core issues, the joy work, the clearing, the acceptance of greater love, interdimensional travel, and knowingness. You have reached a place of balance, of the wisdom of knowing what creates balance. So, where there is hatred you do not balance it with more hatred, you balance it with compassion and Love. And where there is dissidence you bring clarity, not more dissidence. And where there is inequality you do not add to that inequality. Where there is lack you add abundance. You have learned this and you have learned it within and now you move, boldly, freely, in awe and excitement, into the creation and co-creation of Nova Earth from the place of Nova Being and Loving Will…or willing Love!

    So often you have turned to me in dismay and you have said, "Lord, when will we be free?" You have always been free! But somehow…what is your expression…you did not get the memo, you did not receive the text. You are free and nothing, nothing can hamper you, can hinder you, nothing can stop you now. It is not a matter of more activations. It is not a matter of more Tsunami. Is the collective still being penetrated? Yes. But you, beloved ones, are the agents of extraordinary change. You are the agents and the angels of re-gridding, of re-patterning, and of pulling, pushing, gentling, with every ounce of your being, seen and unseen, bringing the collective and all of Gaia into integrated reality, into new time.

    What does this mean in practical terms? It means a world that you have not even glimpsed. You have dreamt of the new tomorrow and you have believed it to be fabulous, and in fact it has been, but you aren't even close. And it is not ten years hence or one hundred years hence, it is right now. And what does it look like, other than pristine and clean and balanced and trusting and loving? It looks like Love…in action, in play, in harmony, in silence, and in the sound of Gabrielle's horn calling all into attendance and balance. It looks and it feels extraordinary movement.

    Why do I use this term? The phraseology, the understanding of the Chinese masters that change is constant, is universal. You will not be the same in the next breath that you were a moment ago; that change is never ending. The Mother's creation is constant and infinite and therefore change is constant and infinite. That is ordinary…which is really far from ordinary. But I use this term ‘extraordinary' to connote quantum leaps, change of such a magnitude that you cannot hardly believe that yesterday was yesterday and today is today.

    Now, what is required in all of this? Simple acceptance. I am not asking you to go and jump the Grand Canyon…although you will. I am not asking you to get on a soap box and go in front of the White House…although you might. What I am asking you is to walk with me, to walk with us, to walk on Earth with your star family, with the masters, with me in form now! And I know you say ‘yes'. You said ‘yes' 2000 years ago, 10,000 years ago, and 1 million years ago. Your heart, your soul, has always said ‘yes'. Expect…and seldom do I ask you to work in expectation…expect the unexpected; revel in the unexpected.

    Ascension is at hand and so I ask all of you to take each other's hands, to take my hand, to take the hand of St. Germaine, Sanat Kumara, the Mother, for we proceed together in this moment, this bridge of right now, together, in willing Love, in Loving Will, and in determined, focused action. Let us begin.

    Farewell, and understand ‘god speed' takes on new meaning. I love you. Farewell.

    But I digress



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    8/18/2016 1:08 PM
    I had seen some weather person I follow on Twitter post that as well.

    Funny thing for us, in June our average high was 4 degrees above normal, Our average high for July was about 2.5 degrees below normal. Actually lower than June's average highs.

    Our average low for both months finished above average.

    I don't know if they take the highs and lows averaged together to get the if the average temperature for the climate report.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. Trevor Monreal
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    8/18/2016 1:08 PM
    [img">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30950781/G_W.jpg[/img">



  6. Steven Huffstutler
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    8/18/2016 3:08 PM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: I had seen some weather person I follow on Twitter post that as well.

    Funny thing for us, in June our average high was 4 degrees above normal, Our average high for July was about 2.5 degrees below normal. Actually lower than June's average highs.

    Our average low for both months finished above average.

    I don't know if they take the highs and lows averaged together to get the if the average temperature for the climate report.

    Mel


    http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/weather_climate.html

    Don't confuse climate with weather



  7. Melvin Waldron
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    8/18/2016 3:08 PM
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said:
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: I had seen some weather person I follow on Twitter post that as well.

    Funny thing for us, in June our average high was 4 degrees above normal, Our average high for July was about 2.5 degrees below normal. Actually lower than June's average highs.

    Our average low for both months finished above average.

    I don't know if they take the highs and lows averaged together to get the if the average temperature for the climate report.

    Mel


    http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/weather_climate.html

    Don't confuse climate with weather


    Agreed,

    I was showing a snapshot of our backyard so to speak, which was different than the overall. I just thought it funny that we were below average. Actually going back at least 3 years our July's have been average or below. Nothing like was it 2011 and 2012?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  8. Peter Bowman
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    8/18/2016 4:08 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said: Oh well. I like hot weather. Good for the bones.

    https://weather.com/news/climate/news/july-2016-warmest-global-temperature-record


    One of those maps shows a good portion of the Sahara Desert is "Cooler than Average." I bet they're not complaining much about that right now. All they need is some rainfall, and maybe they can grow a few crops.



  9. Max Lamas
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    8/19/2016 10:08 AM
    IMO the earths climate is in a natural cycle of increasing or decreasing (in temp. terms). We humans are just speeding up the change.



  10. Clay Putnam
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    8/19/2016 10:08 AM
    Trevor Monreal said: [img">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30950781/G_W.jpg[/img">


    That was known as the Flatulent Period.



  11. Ronald Conard
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    8/19/2016 10:08 AM
    Max Lamas said: IMO the earths climate is in a natural cycle of increasing or decreasing (in temp. terms). We humans are just speeding up the change.


    I could agree with that. Once we wipe ourselves out it'll bounce back.



  12. Clay Putnam
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    8/19/2016 2:08 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Max Lamas said: IMO the earths climate is in a natural cycle of increasing or decreasing (in temp. terms). We humans are just speeding up the change.


    I could agree with that. Once we wipe ourselves out it'll bounce back.


    In due time. I'm sure their membership drives are knockin' 'em dead. BTW, any card carrying members out there? A conversation with you would be a hoot.

    http://www.vhemt.org



  13. Terry Smith
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    8/20/2016 1:08 PM
    Hey Mel, Two guys died recently, One form heat prostitution, oops make that prostration, and one from hypothermia but on an average they were comfortable.



  14. Ronald Conard
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    8/22/2016 10:08 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Max Lamas said: IMO the earths climate is in a natural cycle of increasing or decreasing (in temp. terms). We humans are just speeding up the change.


    I could agree with that. Once we wipe ourselves out it'll bounce back.


    In due time. I'm sure their membership drives are knockin' 'em dead. BTW, any card carrying members out there? A conversation with you would be a hoot.

    http://www.vhemt.org


    That's awesome!! Thanks for the link Clay. I just ordered my safety reflective bike sticker "Thank you for not breeding". That should go over well here.



  15. Clay Putnam
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    8/22/2016 11:08 AM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Max Lamas said: IMO the earths climate is in a natural cycle of increasing or decreasing (in temp. terms). We humans are just speeding up the change.


    I could agree with that. Once we wipe ourselves out it'll bounce back.


    In due time. I'm sure their membership drives are knockin' 'em dead. BTW, any card carrying members out there? A conversation with you would be a hoot.

    http://www.vhemt.org


    That's awesome!! Thanks for the link Clay. I just ordered my safety reflective bike sticker "Thank you for not breeding". That should go over well here.


    Don't think anything of it. Just trying be a good soon-to-be-extinct member of the human race.



  16. Clay Putnam
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  17. Jason Schulte
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    9/6/2016 8:09 PM
    Does anyone really listen to Al Gore? Or the President. They love global warming. Not I :D



  18. Timothy Etheridge
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    11/2/2016 12:11 PM
    Everybody knows the planet has been warming ever since the last ice age! LOL



  19. Brian Sturdevant
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    11/30/2016 4:11 PM
    I have read that the only temperature shown to be rising is that of ground based thermometers and the true measure of whether the earth's atmospheric temperature is a satellite measurement of the lower troposphere. The ground based thermometers which at one time may have been located outside of cities are now located in suburbs as cities grow thus heat trapping asphalt and buildings and such affect the readings.

    http://www.globalwarming.org/2015/05/05 ... -18-years/

    Read this article if you really want to know about the temperature of the earth's atmosphere.



  20. Larry Allan
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    12/1/2016 8:12 AM
    Be careful to check out the funding of any organization from as many sources as you can. The money trail often shows the motive


    Competitive Enterprise Institute

    Follow the money in the Koch wiki.

    Learn more about how the State Policy Network aids ALEC and spins disinformation in the states.

    The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a advocacy group based in Washington DC with long ties to tobacco disinformation campaigns and more recently to climate change denial. It calls itself "a non-profit, non-partisan research and advocacy institute dedicated to the principles of free enterprise and limited government. We believe that individuals are best helped not by government intervention, but by making their own choices in a free marketplace."[1] The Competitive Enterprise Institute is an "associate" member of the State Policy Network, a web of right-wing "think tanks" in every state across the country.[2]

    Until August 2007 CEI's website CEI stated that it served "as both a think tank—creating intellectual ammunition to support free markets—and an advocacy organization—putting that ammunition to use in persuasive ways."[3]

    It postures as an advocate of "sound science" in the development of public policy. However, CEI projects dispute the overwhelming scientific evidence that human induced greenhouse gas emissions are driving climate change. They have a program for "challenging government regulations", push property rights as a solution to environment problems, opposed US vehicle fuel efficiency standards, and spin for the drug industry.

    Many of its claims have been debunked. Here are a few examples related to climate change:

    Annenberg Political Fact Check, "Scientist to CEI: You Used My Research To "Confuse and Mislead," May 26, 2006.
    "Thank you for emitting", Real Climate, May 18, 2006
    News Bureau, University of Missouri-Columbia, "MU Professor Refutes National Television Ads Downplaying Global Warming: Engineering Professor Curt Davis says TV Spots are Misrepresenting His Research," May 19, 2006.



  21. Stephen Okula
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    12/9/2016 4:12 AM
    Depending on his interests, the President-elect may or may not believe in global warming.

    From the UK newspapaer The Independent, here is an article on the development of a Trump golf course on dunes in Doonbeg, Ireland.

    Trump wants to build a seawall along the site to prevent erosion, but it is meeting resistance from environmental groups mainly for fear of disrupting the habitat of an endangerd species of snail. One of the motivating factors for the wall cited in the Trump organizations application is the threat of rising sea levels due to climate change.

    "Mr Trump has hinted that he does not believe in man-made climate change, tweeting that the "concept of global warming was created by and for the Chines" in 2012, but the application cited global warming and rising sea levels to justify the wall."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 60381.html



  22. Melvin Waldron
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    12/9/2016 8:12 AM
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: Depending on his interests, the President-elect may or may not believe in global warming.

    From the UK newspapaer The Independent, here is an article on the development of a Trump golf course on dunes in Doonbeg, Ireland.

    Trump wants to build a seawall along the site to prevent erosion, but it is meeting resistance from environmental groups mainly for fear of disrupting the habitat of an endangerd species of snail. One of the motivating factors for the wall cited in the Trump organizations application is the threat of rising sea levels due to climate change.

    "Mr Trump has hinted that he does not believe in man-made climate change, tweeting that the "concept of global warming was created by and for the Chines" in 2012, but the application cited global warming and rising sea levels to justify the wall."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 60381.html


    That's Classic.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  23. Andrew Cross
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    12/9/2016 10:12 AM
    To me the question is not if it exists but is it all us or the earth doing another extreme cycle. Obviously we play a part in it, but are we the sole reason? History would say no (not solely man) as there have been HUGE shifts in the climate that predate man/industrialization. That said yes there have been some shifts in weather patterns for sure, but climatology is a very very complex process that I'm not sure we have a full grasp on or ever will have.

    Now to go back to Trump, I'm pretty sure he most likely didn't pen the letter, hell he may or may not have even seen it before it was sent. But as a business person of course you will use any and every reason to sell what you need to.



  24. Clay Putnam
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    12/9/2016 3:12 PM
    Larry Allan"]




    "It postures as an advocate of "sound science" in the development of public policy. However, CEI projects dispute the overwhelming scientific evidence that human induced greenhouse gas emissions..."

    "GONG" - far from overwhelming. Nothing more than a fun memo point of the "alt-left".



  25. Clinton Morgan
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    12/22/2016 12:12 PM
    I heard it snowed in the Sahara desert for the first time since the late 1970's, I guess that is why they call it climate change" rather than "global warming these days"

    Clint



  26. Stephen Okula
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    12/23/2016 1:12 AM
    2016 will be the warmest year on record, setting a new record for the fourth year in a row. The ten warmest years since humans have been recording temperatures have all occurred since the year 2000.

    But don't worry, that's normal.

    https://weather.com/news/climate/news/w ... earth-2016



  27. Mark Claburn
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    12/28/2016 2:12 PM
    There is real man made global warming http://realclimatescience.com/2016/12/1 ... tampering/



  28. Larry Allan
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    12/30/2016 9:12 AM
    Mark Claburn said: There is real man made global warming http://realclimatescience.com/2016/12/1 ... tampering/

    It might just be me but I am always somewhat skeptical of solid science websites that need to advertise "Hot Russian women ready to please"
    What's to say they are technically hotter than than any other women from any other country. The hotness scale of women changes with time. Girls from the 30's to me, are not as hot as girls today. I suppose that may be the true cause of Global Warming



  29. Stephen Okula
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    1/3/2017 7:01 AM
    Larry,

    To compare how hot a Russian girl is to an American one, you need to take the American, subtract 32, and then multiply by 5/9ths.

    The formula, where A is the American, and R is the Russian:

    A - 32 = 5 X (R/9)



  30. Peter Bowman
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