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Punching in/out for lunch?

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  1. Douglas Davis
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    6 posts
    10/29/2014 3:10 PM
    Just curious how many of you require it? I never have but now my new administrative bosses think I should.

    We are a municipal facility jointly owned by a Park District and a City.

    Look forward to your replies.

    Doug



  2. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    10/29/2014 4:10 PM
    I am currently at a city/county facility and we do not even have time clocks, and this is city-wide. (I scratch my head too when I sometimes see it as tax payer money even if we are an enterprise fund).

    I worked at a county course in NJ and if they left the property for lunch or break, they had to clock out. The thinking as I was told was, if they were in an accident they were on their own time and this relieved the employer (county) of any liability.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  3. Keith Pegg
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    0 posts
    10/29/2014 5:10 PM
    No,

    We are US Army and use time clocks and lunch is unpaid 45 min; at end of day they are on shift 8.75 hr and paid for 8hr. Why punch in for lunch and then out again?

    Keith Pegg
    Japan



  4. Steve Nelson
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    0 posts
    10/30/2014 7:10 AM
    No. Muni course with city employees. Punch in at beginning of day punch out at end. Lunch is 30 min unpaid no need to punch in and out for that.



  5. Anthony Nysse
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    1 posts
    10/30/2014 8:10 AM
    We require staff to punch out if they leave property for lunch. That way we are not liable if anything happens. Regardless, 30mins are deducted each day for lunch.



  6. Steven Huffstutler
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    11 posts
    10/30/2014 8:10 AM
    Bureaucrats have to something to justify their existences, I guess? Tail waggin the dog



  7. James Schmid
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    1 posts
    10/30/2014 9:10 AM
    We punch in and out for lunch. Most companies in California do. Companies get sued/fined all the time for alleged break/lunch/timekeeping violations. Scenario goes like this: Disgruntled employee "A" goes to the state agency responsible for such things and says "my employer has me at work for 8.5 hours, .5 hour of which is an unpaid lunch. Many times they don't let me take my lunch or only give me 10 minutes or less yet charge me .5 hours for it."

    State agency visits employer and says : "prove to us that you have been providing this employee with a proper lunch break." Employer has no record of such and ends up being fined tens of thousands of dollars as state agency decides that since employee "A" has been abused and taken advantage of they are going to give every employee in the company back pay for lunches missed for the last 2 years , plus penalties.

    At least thats how it works in California anyway, I think. If you have a time clock, and the staff is at the shop for lunch anyway, why not?



  8. Mark Van Lienden
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    14 posts
    10/30/2014 10:10 AM
    We really had some late stragglers who I would talk to and they would be good for a while then slowly longer and longer lunches. It was more annoying especially if others had to wait for them. Once we went to the time clock punching in and out they always started back on time.



  9. Gary Carls
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    19 posts
    10/30/2014 5:10 PM
    Formerly at municipal course and like Mel we had no time clocks for any employees. Never had any problems with this but do know of other places where it became an issue with disgruntled employees claiming they worked during lunches, stayed late or similar without getting paid and no real records to support employers side given no time clocks.

    Gary K. Carls, CGCS, President - Oakland Turfgrass Education Initiative

  10. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    10/30/2014 6:10 PM
    My guys don't even eat lunch. Start at 5, short break/bite to eat after first assignment, leave at 1:00.

    Although my mechanic eats with us everyday off property, we don't dock him pay since this is typically the only time he and I can discuss work related stuff. Therefore everyday is a working lunch. I say this because if your employees clock out for lunch, and you say even one word about work, technically they are working and you are required to pay them for that time.



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