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Funding Universities Turf Research and Operations

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  1. Melvin Waldron
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    2/14/2013 7:02 AM
    Hi all,

    With budget cuts to higher learning (and Missouri ranks way down on the list, way down) how are your states going about funding either research or filling staff positions or even just operating turf and ornamental research farms and stations?

    I know there are Rounds 4 Research and we plan to look into that. I do know some of our chapters have sponsored research projects, others have found items to sale with proceeds going to the program. But we are wondering about ways to raise large sums of money to help cover cost for years to come and maybe even build up to an endowment.

    I have heard Kansas has a dollar per round for golf, is that true?

    Any states with check off programs say for fertilizer and/or seed? I do understand our soy bean farmers here in our state have a check off on bushel production, but since we are not a crop.

    Any other things happening out there? I would appreciate any ideas we can borrow.

    Thanks!

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  2. Andy Jorgensen
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    2/14/2013 9:02 AM
    Mel,

    Our local chapter has hosted a turfgrass research fundraiser tournament for the past 20 years. We have raised over $806,000 that has funded numerous research projects at the Envirotron at the University of Florida and now the UF Plant Science Research and Education Unit. A portion of the funds that we've collected has also gone to construct and maintain the PSREU as well as purchase necessary equipment used for research projects.

    But, that being said, we have spent very little money in the past three years. We simply can't get a request for research. Our rule is whatever research we fund it has to directly benefit our members.



  3. Melvin Waldron
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    2/14/2013 10:02 AM
    Thanks Andy, I don't know what our little chapter has raised over the years, but I do know we are working with the Heart and Wisconsin Turfgrass foundation with some money from EIFG as well to fund a research project. I also know the Mississippi Valley has donated money for another project. Our researchers at MU are working hard for proposals and grants. We are trying to support the best we can.

    The big issue is just trying to pay for the necessities, such as utilities and money to run the farm. The university always hopes the industry will help, I think that has become more of the norm with less money coming from the state. That's why we are looking at other funding options to provide a level of consistent support for those necessities.

    Thanks!

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Larry Stowell
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    2/14/2013 10:02 PM
    Rant warning - read with caution.

    The problem with university research funding is one of sheer magnititude. It costs the university about $250,000 per full time professor per year - salary, lab space, electricity, etc. and administrative support. In California, before Dr. Frank Wong left, he had to use contract chemical trials funded by industry to to subsidize diagnostic services because the university does not support extension professors as they have in the past. When you do the math, if the industry is not kicking in about $250,000 per university professor per year, Industry is not covering the cost of the professor and the state is paying the difference. This is probably OK if we consider the tax contributions of the golf industry to the states budget. Unfortunately, nobody has promoted this contribution to legislators and university Deans. Turfgrass research programs result in a financial burden to the university in many states. If that is the case, why would a university Dean want to continue supporting a turfgrass research program.

    If the golf industry does not start finding ways to support university researchers by generating substantially higher levels of funding or lobbying for some tax dollars to flow back to the university to fund positions, the turfgrass research positions will disappear. The Dr. Frank Wong position looks like it will not be refilled any time soon in California. That means that the industry has lost about $250,000 in research funding that was formerly provided by the university. It is a big impact.

    If you look at a program like Rutgers, with many senior researchers, staff, equipment and land, you can easily spend $2,000,000 per year. The magnitude of the financial problem is huge. If universities are not funded effectively, Industry will be filling in some of the gaps, but the research conducted by industry will be primarily directed toward product development, not basic biology and reduced inputs?

    We are all going to have to think of ways to get needed turfgrass research conducted. For example, I isolated a strain of Dreschlera poae attacking a poa green that was treated multiple times with azoxystrobin. The fungus is likely resistant to the QoI fungicides and it now poses a new threat to poa managers in California. I have contacted Dr. Jim Kerns to assist in DNA testing at NC State because there is nobody in California to assist. Who will work on population distribution in California to see how widespread the resistance problem is? There are no turfgrass disease culture collections in California. It is a total crap shoot without a research university to assist.

    Surprising problems are going to show up and there is nobody here to sort them out. I can work out the preliminary details, but only a university researcher with an active program can determine the true risk and the most effective direction for managing new discoveries.

    In a state like California with 921 golf courses, the golf industry generates $6.1 billion dollars in economic activity per year. Some of the tax dollars generated by golf activity needs to be funneled back to the universities to support research and education. Moreover, why should golf course superintendent's shoulder the major fund raising burden. Superintendent's aren't the beneficiaries of research findings, it is the golfers and golf course owners that benefit when the agronomic programs are effective. Why don't golfers and golf course owners know that research benefits their game and business? Who is responsible for educating the golfers and golf course owners?

    How dire is the growing shortage of turfgrass researchers? We are going to find out.



  5. Melvin Waldron
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    2/15/2013 10:02 AM
    Thanks Larry,

    That was not a rant but some good information. It was a big learning experience for me to understand how universities work, you mentioned some of the same issues we have heard about it here, as it relates to funding and research.

    Also as I understood it, when grants are purposed for research, it's not like they can add in extra monies to pay for the running the facility and infrastructure. It is what it cost to produce the study, some salary money is in it to help pay for research assistants and grad student workers, but they can't pad it.

    I do think we need to look to our industry partners to help educate the golfers and I mean the PGA and Club Managers, and even the Pro Tours to an extent. I know the Pro Tours promote all that they give in charity to the area non-profits at a tournament site. Does anyone know how maybe the go about looking into part of a slice of the pie? I do know that an example the tournament site uses volunteers for many jobs such as parking, (at our Web.com Tour event a group that supports the mentally challenged who help with parking gets some money....we actually see them use it at our golf course in the summer as they have a small group come out on Friday afternoons and play. Our parks department marshals a hole and the department gets money for their scholarship fund)

    I have wondered about a tax on players salaries (we have 2 MLB teams, 1 double AA team, the Web.com tour, a world team tennis team. Although should they shoulder the whole burden? They do benefit from the research (we have a sports field guru at MU as well) Plus then we'll never see Phil here playing. What about a seat tax for attendees going right to turf research? Of course the way the Royals and Chiefs are playing their attendance isn't going to help, but that could apply to colleges in state as well? A tax on golf rounds, (maybe tax is not the best word to use). These are just some ideas that I've wondered about, just looking at what is working elsewhere.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  6. Richard Lavine
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    2/15/2013 10:02 AM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS"]Thanks Larry,

    "Also as I understood it, when grants are purposed for research, it's not like they can add in extra monies to pay for the running the facility and infrastructure. It is what it cost to produce the study, some salary money is in it to help pay for research assistants and grad student workers, but they can't pad it."

    Mel,
    My wife used to be a biotech researcher within the UC system. The university took 30-40% right off the top of any grant money she received; that was the universities fee for administrative and overhead costs.



  7. Larry Stowell
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    2/15/2013 12:02 PM
    Interestingly, for commodity groups in agriculture and most golf grants from non-profit organizations, the university does not take the 40% overhead and the Deans hate that. The agrichemical companies don't like to pay overhead for product testing trials either. But, without overhead, the projects run at a cost to the university and that is why we
    see a reduction in applied research programs.

    As a small business owner myself, I don't think the 40% overhead is unreasonable.

    In the future, we will have a handful of universities that will be equipped to handle the full spectrum of turfgrass management research. We are seeing a similar trend in agricultural research. We just have to figure out how to keep ahead of the problems creatively.



  8. Timothy Walker
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    2/15/2013 7:02 PM
    That may be the balance to the industry in a fortunate yet unfortunate manner.

    Everybody agrees there were too many turf programs producing too many potential employees to the workforce. Some have gone off of the radar, this may be the case for research as well. If there are a smaller group of facilities doing research more money can be spent with these facilities producing quality research, perhaps on a regional basis. Unfortunately, this equates to fewer research positions and the specific research to a smaller region (such as California).

    It is unfortunate to lose researchers and diagnostic labs, but it just may be the balance the industry needs.



  9. Larry Stowell
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    2/16/2013 12:02 AM
    Balance is an interesting choice of words. In California, golf courses host charitable organization events that generate almost $400 million per year. Is it that unreasonable to think that the golf industry might be able to find 1% of that amount of charitable funding for turf science and marketing R&D.

    As long as golfers accept the occasional failure due to causes that we don't understand, agronomic research is not as essential. However, as long as superintendents keep being released from their jobs due to possible unknown factors that resulted in unacceptable turf loss, I support research. Just look at the recent controversy over bacterial wilt and decline. Was the turf loss due to disease, heat stress, or both? If we never try to find out the cause of failures and keep loosing grass and firing superintendents, who will want to be a superintendent? Maybe that is why there is a drop in numbers of superintendents who are older than fifty years old. The odds finally catch up to them after they work as a superintendent for more than 20 years and an uncontrollable event or some poorly understood biology results in a catastropic turf loss and then job loss.

    I can't think of many industries that invest so little in research for the future based upon proportion of revenue. Moreover, research does not need to be entirely agronomic, golf needs some serious market research to deal with the future of the game. Research is simply investment in the future and the golf industry doesn't seem to get it.



  10. Brett Morris
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    2/16/2013 5:02 PM
    I have a Masters and PhD in turf from Sydney University (Australia) and work now as a Superintendent at a private club here. The Sydney University turf programme used to teach a Graduate Diploma and Masters, but folded last year due to lack of funding. Universities here are run like any other business and want to be profitable, with any endowments or government funding being spent on health research (and the like) and not lowly old grass (which is understandable to a point). As such, the turf research industry here now is fairly much non-existant with any projects (normally small) being funded by industry sponsors or golf clubs themselves. I got lucky with a consortium of sod farmers from around the country looking for new sports turf, racing and commercial types of kikuyu grass which I bred. But at the end of that project, the money stopped, I left and my supervisor, one of the most gifted minds anywhere, has been stood down from full time work. We had a good research setup at the University with large fields of 50+ different varieties of warm and cool season turf in replicated phyto plots covering a couple of hectares but now is just being basically maintained. The only thing keeping it going at this stage is work from The Scotts Co., but only employs a field maintenance worker and a technician whose cost is spread across a few income sources. If I could be back in research I would but with industry here relying on research from overseas to support their products, then it's off to the course each day for me. Students now wanting to progress in higher education can only go as far as a Diploma now at the equivalent of a community college in Melbourne via correspondence.

    It's why I love going to GIS each year, at least you still have some programmes going.



  11. Melvin Waldron
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    2/17/2013 3:02 PM
    Some good points Richard and Larry....

    I know when we try to get money for the farm we (as a group) are looking at ways to try and keep that stuff going to the university because then we feel we don't get the bang for our investment.

    I know discussions with helping to build a new building at the turf farm, some that want to invest hate the fact that the university will be taking I think 18% to oversee the project. In some regards we hate that fact and just makes gathering the money even more daunting. But I can understand having the university involved because they have to maintain it in the long run.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

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