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Weeping toro sprinklers

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  1. McDonagh Patrick
    McDonagh Patrick avatar
    9/17/2013 8:09 AM
    This year we have an unusual number of our Toro sprinkler heads leaking. Sometimes replacing the pilot valve soles the problem other times it does not.
    We are getting tired of staking off the weepers.
    The system is 25 years old is this what I am to expect.



  2. McDonagh Patrick
    McDonagh Patrick avatar
    9/17/2013 8:09 AM
    This year we have an unusual number of our Toro sprinkler heads leaking. Sometimes replacing the pilot valve soles the problem other times it does not.
    We are getting tired of staking off the weepers.
    The system is 25 years old is this what I am to expect.



  3. McDonagh Patrick
    McDonagh Patrick avatar
    9/17/2013 8:09 AM
    Nice job you posted it twice.



  4. Nowakowski Michael J
    Nowakowski Michael J avatar
    9/17/2013 2:09 PM
    You might want to check the spring on the valve assembly. i have found that even a little bit difference from factory spec will allow water to seep past, not enough to keep the head on, but wet around it. I also do my own test where I have a brand new one, squeeze it with a thumb, then compare it to the leaking one and see if there is a difference in the "give".



  5. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    9/17/2013 4:09 PM
    I have seen the surface where the in-head valve seats against main head wear. If you run your finger nail across it you can feel it. When that happens the main case has to be replaced.



  6. Matthew Neff
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    9/17/2013 7:09 PM
    Patrick McDonagh said: This year we have an unusual number of our Toro sprinkler heads leaking. Sometimes replacing the pilot valve soles the problem other times it does not.
    We are getting tired of staking off the weepers.
    The system is 25 years old is this what I am to expect.


    Patrick,

    Our system is of similar age as yours and we have also had several weepers the last few years. What I typically do in order to diagnose whether it's a bad pilot valve or bad white valve (bottom valve, foot valve whatever you want to call it) that's causing it to weep is dig up the head and pinch the pilot valve tube with a pair of vice grips (being careful to not damage tube). Dry off the head and if weeping has stopped, it's a bad pilot valve. If it continues to weep, it's either a bad white valve or a damaged can.

    If it turns out that it's a white valve, as someone else mentioned, make sure you check the valve seat in the bottom of the head to determine if it's nicked or otherwise damaged. If it is, you'll obviously need to replace the entire can. I am not aware of a way to be able to differentiate between a damaged can and bad white valve without going through the process of turning water off and replacing white valve and then turning it back on to see if it works.



  7. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    9/17/2013 10:09 PM
    We bought a bunch of 850's (I think). If you buy like a pallet load at a time the price is very favorable. With 25yo heads it might be time to start replacing complete heads.



  8. McDonagh Patrick
    McDonagh Patrick avatar
    9/18/2013 9:09 AM
    Thanks for the tips. We were going to replace $10,000 in sprinklers this year but revenues have not met expectations.



  9. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    9/18/2013 9:09 AM
    Can't the bottom valve seat? In the old rain bird heads the part is called an inlet adapter, this was used before the screw in rock screen piece servicable from the top of the can. We had the parts to replace inlet adapters before someone broke our tool. You might check with SportsTurf Irrigation (800) 492-8378 to see if they can get those parts for you if Toro can't. Or they have rebuilt cans they will sell as well if replacing heads like Scott suggest is out of our budget? http://www.sportsturfirrigation.com

    We have been trying to replace our 51DR's around greens with eagles and then using the 51's to replace on tees and fairways, when we run out of those spares we call SportsTurf.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

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