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1. Matthew Neff

   

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   11/1/2012 7:11 PM

   We're looking at new topdressers and have pretty much narrowed it down to the ProPass 200 and the Dakota 410 - probably going with the tow behind models. Just wondering what everybody's experiences have been with either one or both. Also wondering if the wireless remote option on the ProPass is worth the extra money. Thanks.

   
   
   
   
2. Andy Jorgensen

   

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   11/2/2012 5:11 AM

   Both are good machines. A few years ago I was comparing both as well. We went with the ProPass mounted on a Workman simply due to price.
   
   From my experience running the old tow behind Terra Toppers and Buffalo Blowers, unless you want to rewire something every few times you use it, I'd go wireless. Of course, my Buffalo Blower is wireless and in 4 years we've lost the remote twice. It is chained to an old truck rim now. Trick I picked up from the convenience store down the road.

   
   
   
   
3. Wahlin Scott B

   
   11/2/2012 11:11 AM

   My 410 is going on twelve years old. We wore a set of spinners out after 10 years, but that has been about it.

   
   
   
   
4. Matthew Neff

   

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   11/2/2012 7:11 PM

   Andy Jorgensen said: Both are good machines. A few years ago I was comparing both as well. We went with the ProPass mounted on a Workman simply due to price.
   From my experience running the old tow behind Terra Toppers and Buffalo Blowers, unless you want to rewire something every few times you use it, I'd go wireless. Of course, my Buffalo Blower is wireless and in 4 years we've lost the remote twice. It is chained to an old truck rim now. Trick I picked up from the convenience store down the road.

   
   
   

   Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: My 410 is going on twelve years old. We wore a set of spinners out after 10 years, but that has been about it.

   
   
   Thanks for the info. We've had pretty good luck with the wiring on our Terra Topper for the most part (which I would of course attribute to my unbelievably skillful operating) so hopefully we'd have the same luck with the ProPass.
   
   Andy - Is the ability to have the pre-set rates on the remote really that helpful? What's the footprint like with the Workman mounted model? Part of the reason we're looking at the tow behind model is because of the weight distribution.
   
   Scott and Andy - Have you used it for both light shots and heavy post-aerification apps? If so, how do they perform in both scenarios?

   
   
   
   
5. Wahlin Scott B

   
   11/2/2012 8:11 PM

   Matthew Neff said: Scott and Andy - Have you used it for both light shots and heavy post-aerification apps? If so, how do they perform in both scenarios?

   
   
   Yes, we have used the 410 for both light and extremely heavy topdressing. We had our first issue last year and were able to speak to a knowledgeable technician from the company to get us back on track. Ours is 12 years old.

   
   
   
   
6. Baker Daniel

   
   11/3/2012 2:11 AM

   I'm happy with my propass. There are several different adjustments so you can fine tune it all you want. I can lay down as much or as little as I want

   
   
   
   
7. Andrew Cross

   

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   11/3/2012 11:11 AM

   Having used both, well I used the Tycrop (before Toro bought them). I've used the Dakota as a pull behind and the TyCrop as a workman mounted. Both are good but I thought the Dakota threw it slightly more uniform, both are great choices but I would give a slight edge to the Dakota. As far as tracking goes I've not seen a great deal of difference between the pull behind and the truck mounted, with the pull behind you are taking one more set of wheels across the green.
   
   As far as controls, wired vs wireless I don't see that as a big issue since the person doing the topdressing is usually a very trusted person if you allow them to a) drive across and topdress greens and b) allow them to use the skid steer or loader. But its probably cheaper to splice a few wires than it is to buy a new wireless remote (if completely and hopelessly lost).
   
   Just my 2 cents

   
   
   
   
8. Andy Jorgensen

   

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   11/4/2012 7:11 PM

   I think you'd get tracking no matter what unless you disperse by hand. But, in reality, the Workman mount really weighs no more than a full sprayer.
   
   Yes, we have the one machine for 54 holes. We use it for anything and everything. Light, heavy, you name it.

   
   
   
   
9. Daniel Jurgens

   

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   11/5/2012 1:11 AM

   We have the PP 200 wireless truck mounted and love it. I do not use the preset stores as I'm usually going 100% on plates and belt and regulate amounts with the chute opening. Topdressing tees and narrow areas are also easy, just adjust your throwing width by slowing the spinners down (I use around 25%) and hit the option store and don't think about it after that. For heavy apps slow them down to 8-12% and dump it on. We need to replace spinners every other year or so.
   
   Dan, Kragerø Golf, Norway

   
   
   
   
10. Baker Daniel

    
    11/5/2012 1:11 PM

    Andrew Cross said: Having used both, well I used the Tycrop (before Toro bought them). I've used the Dakota as a pull behind and the TyCrop as a workman mounted. Both are good but I thought the Dakota threw it slightly more uniform, both are great choices but I would give a slight edge to the Dakota. As far as tracking goes I've not seen a great deal of difference between the pull behind and the truck mounted, with the pull behind you are taking one more set of wheels across the green.
    
    As far as controls, wired vs wireless I don't see that as a big issue since the person doing the topdressing is usually a very trusted person if you allow them to a) drive across and topdress greens and b) allow them to use the skid steer or loader. But its probably cheaper to splice a few wires than it is to buy a new wireless remote (if completely and hopelessly lost).
    
    Just my 2 cents

    
    
    
    Our Propass tow behind has 4 large floatation tires. We don't see any tracking. Unlike the 440, the 410 only has two wheels. Don't know if that will impact your decision or not, but it may be worth considering if you have softer greens.

    
    
    
    
11. Matthew Neff

    

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    11/5/2012 8:11 PM

    Thanks for all the information guys - really appreciate it.

    
    
    
    
12. Henry Heinz

    

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    11/6/2012 4:11 AM

    All I can say is 410...... Dakota has some of the best units out there, and the service they provide to their dealers is just awesome.
    
    Regards,

    
    
    
    
13. Scott Axon

    

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    11/6/2012 12:11 PM

    Our truck mount 410 is 10 years old. We spread all our green, tee and fairway clippings with it every day. Turns bent clippings to dust! Works great for all types of topdressing, whether it be a dusting, filling holes after aerification or filling a row of divots on the range tees. Pretty much a bulletproof machine.