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Bunker Liner Ruling @ Canadian Open

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  1. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    7/30/2017 3:07 PM
    Saw an odd ruling while watching the RBC Canadian Open. Charley Hoffman's ball plugged in a green side bunker leaving him with an awkward stance on the sand slope of the bunker. Hoffman could not achieve a firm stance because of the bunker liner under the sand; identified as Better Billy Bunker. A rules official granted Hoffman relief from the BBB lined slope thus giving Hoffman a better stance and lie - which he went onto duff. I've seen relief given because of fabric liners protruding out of sand but I have never seen a ruling for an intact liner.



  2. Jeffrey Smelser
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    2 posts
    7/31/2017 6:07 AM
    I guess this doesn't matter anymore

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  3. Corey Eastwood
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    80 posts
    7/31/2017 11:07 AM
    I think the ruling was wrong. Isn't a bunker a Hazard? I think his playing partner jokingly said something like You sure are nice to the official.

    Corey Eastwood CGCS, Stockton Golf & CC, Retired

  4. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    7/31/2017 11:07 AM
    Corey Eastwood, CGCS said: I think the ruling was wrong. Isn't a bunker a Hazard? I think his playing partner jokingly said something like You sure are nice to the official.


    I was a bit dumbfounded by the ruling. What if there was no liner and the player still could not achieve firm footing within the bunker? For instance if the sub-grade of the bunker were a rock material? Would the player then be given relief? There are many instances which a player cannot take a "normal" stance within a bunker. At the British Open, for instance, Matt Kuchar had an awkward bunker shot that required him to take a stance outside the bunker.

    The only reason for the ruling that I can think of is the liner itself. Does this then create another can of worms as it relates to liners?



  5. Jeffrey Smelser
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    2 posts
    8/3/2017 5:08 AM
    Major problem is when they give the pros relief for a liner issue, Joe Average golfer will expect relief every time we get rain and any soil if exposed.

    Had member ask me yesterday, if we had concrete under our sand.

    Thanks PGA - Opened a can of worms



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