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  1. David Brudwick
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    5/29/2016 11:05 PM
    Looking for a little help on cutting cups. I don't know if the Ferrell is worn but it seems that we just can't get the flag stick to stand straight. We have a bubble on the cup cutter and it could be perfectly level and when you put the pin in it leans one way or the other. Does anyone have any tips to take care of this problem. Thanks



  2. Bedford Mike P
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    5/30/2016 5:05 AM
    David,
    It sounds like either worn ferrules or possibly a misaligned cutter to me. If the ferrule seams snug, you can stand your cutter on a level spot on the shop floor and verify both the handle and the blade are plumb with a small level. A small framers square can be used to check handle and cutter alignment.
    I've always preferred the hammer style cutters with scalloped blades, not sure what you're using? Par Aide also makes an alignment tool, although I've never used one.
    http://www.paraide.com/ParAideProducts/ ... fault.aspx
    Regards,



  3. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    5/30/2016 7:05 AM
    Worn ferule on the stick, or worn cup.

    We only get about 18 months out of each here, but can stretch it to two years if need be. We tend to alternate each year replacing the cups or the sticks. If we do both the same year, they tend to stick and the golfers will pull the cup up while removing the stick causing the old "volcano cup" complaint.



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    5/30/2016 10:05 AM
    Andy Jorgensen said: Worn ferule on the stick, or worn cup.

    We only get about 18 months out of each here, but can stretch it to two years if need be. We tend to alternate each year replacing the cups or the sticks. If we do both the same year, they tend to stick and the golfers will pull the cup up while removing the stick causing the old "volcano cup" complaint.


    Andy,

    Do you use aluminum cups or plastic?

    I know in the past and even now, we replace flags sticks every year in the spring due to worn ferules, plus all the scratches from bringing them in every night all summer (if we don't they end up missing).

    We have been getting 3 years out of our aluminum cups, when I use plastic at my last course, we put out new cups every year as well.

    Never got into replacing ferules, figured with the cost of labor and still scratched poles, (which we could fix with vinyl guard) it is about the same cost in my book, and we have enough winter projects to stay busy.

    I remember working at a place the flag sticks and cups were so worn, there was no way to possibly cut a straight cup.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    5/31/2016 3:05 PM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Andy Jorgensen said: Worn ferule on the stick, or worn cup.

    We only get about 18 months out of each here, but can stretch it to two years if need be. We tend to alternate each year replacing the cups or the sticks. If we do both the same year, they tend to stick and the golfers will pull the cup up while removing the stick causing the old "volcano cup" complaint.


    Andy,

    Do you use aluminum cups or plastic?

    I know in the past and even now, we replace flags sticks every year in the spring due to worn ferules, plus all the scratches from bringing them in every night all summer (if we don't they end up missing).

    We have been getting 3 years out of our aluminum cups, when I use plastic at my last course, we put out new cups every year as well.

    Never got into replacing ferules, figured with the cost of labor and still scratched poles, (which we could fix with vinyl guard) it is about the same cost in my book, and we have enough winter projects to stay busy.

    I remember working at a place the flag sticks and cups were so worn, there was no way to possibly cut a straight cup.

    Mel


    They are Aluminum with the white replaceable plastic sleeve. We are pretty wide open out here and get a ton of wind. The sticks are in the cups 350 days/year.



  6. David Brudwick
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    1 posts
    6/20/2016 8:06 PM
    Thanks everyone. Going with new flag sticks.....



  7. Jeremy Hreben
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    0 posts
    6/23/2016 9:06 AM
    I just got into an argument with my cup cutter employee! He's a bit anal. Apparently Par Aide flags do not fit as tight inside Par aide cups as compared to Standard. We also noticed the outside diameter of the cups differ from par aide to standard. All of this was compared using brand new never put in the ground parts!



  8. David Brudwick
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    1 posts
    6/23/2016 8:06 PM
    Jeremy Hreben said: I just got into an argument with my cup cutter employee! He's a bit anal. Apparently Par Aide flags do not fit as tight inside Par aide cups as compared to Standard. We also noticed the outside diameter of the cups differ from par aide to standard. All of this was compared using brand new never put in the ground parts!


    That's interesting. Maybe we need to look at standard cups and flag poles.....



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