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  1. Theodore Piersol
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    4/9/2015 6:04 PM
    My 16 yr. old Bentgrass greens seems to have survived the brutal cold winter in SE. Pa. The small percentage of Poa is a different story. It seems to have died off as apparent by the tan blotches on my greens. Turfpath has an article depicting what happen to my greens. My concern is what to expect this spring. Will the poa quickly germinate or is it now a good time to heavily core and reseed, and hope to reduce the population of annual bluegrass, any experiences out there. Also do I need to topdress more often to keep the greens smooth until things fill in.



  2. Clay Putnam
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    4/10/2015 5:04 AM
    Theodore,

    The Poa will regenerate if you do nothing but can you sit back and do nothing?

    We aerified, top dressed, seeded, top dressed again, fertilizer, and covered to hasten the recovery. Generally, our experience has been that some areas recover very well while others take longer (I suspect the speed of recovery is directly attributable to the amount of the Poa-seed bank in the soil).

    Top dressing to smooth is good but take care not to over do it. Young plants need a bit of time to establish before you start abusing it with top dressing.



  3. Ronald Conard
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    4/10/2015 8:04 AM
    Theodore W Piersol said: My 16 yr. old Bentgrass greens seems to have survived the brutal cold winter in SE. Pa. The small percentage of Poa is a different story. It seems to have died off as apparent by the tan blotches on my greens. Turfpath has an article depicting what happen to my greens. My concern is what to expect this spring. Will the poa quickly germinate or is it now a good time to heavily core and reseed, and hope to reduce the population of annual bluegrass, any experiences out there. Also do I need to topdress more often to keep the greens smooth until things fill in.



    Our Poa checked out this winter as well. I think the tipping point was in mid-November when highs were in the mid 60's on Sunday and -16 on Tuesday. Do you have a link to the article you read?

    On one course with a high percentage of bent I am glad the Poa crashed. I'm simply mowing at a high height and rolling to allow the bent to do what it does.... creep and fill the void. I don't verti-cut... ever, but I would not even consider it now.

    On the other course were the Poa population is higher we are doing pretty much what Clay is doing. I do have a fair of bent within the stand so we pumped it the other day with 1/2# of N from ammonium sulfate and watered in. Again the effort is to fill as much of the void before the Poa seed bank has a chance to germinate and do it's thing.

    Take advantage of the situation. Now is a great window to increase the bent populations.



  4. Theodore Piersol
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    4/10/2015 10:04 AM
    The article is from last April but with back to back cold winters this is almost exactly what happen to me this year.http://www.turfdiseases.org/northeast/w ... nightmare/



  5. Ronald Conard
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    4/13/2015 2:04 PM
    Theodore W Piersol said: The article is from last April but with back to back cold winters this is almost exactly what happen to me this year.http://www.turfdiseases.org/northeast/w ... nightmare/


    Thanks for the article Ted. I don't think the Poa in our region was ever actually acclimated and the early cold snap (65f to -16f) did it in. But it looks the same. I guess there's more than one way to kill Poa.



  6. Nowakowski Michael J
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    4/18/2015 1:04 PM
    I agree with you on this one Ron. We have some Poa that died out as well but am willing to encourage the bent to fill in the gaps. This has been an ongoing process here as I seed the Poa spots every year whether they are healthy or not. As well, I have found the best way to reduce the Poa is irrigating very deeply and very infrequently, once we get the irrigation system running.



  7. David Brandenburg
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    4/19/2015 12:04 PM
    The quickest way to get the poa to re-germinate and fill in the bad spots is to core aerify. The process brings new seeds to the surface and allows the ground to warm faster.

    We have never had good luck just spiking new seed in without aerification.



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