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1. Larry Allan

   

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   6/12/2016 12:06 PM

   His Twat on the Orlando shooting
   
   Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 52m52 minutes ago
   
   Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

   
   
   
   
2. Bedford Mike P

   
   6/12/2016 3:06 PM

   Larry Allan said: His Twat on the Orlando shooting

   
   I thought he was just calling for more gun control.
   Oops, wrong T%@+

   
   
   
   
3. Larry Allan

   

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   6/13/2016 6:06 AM

   My point was, he made an assumption based solely at the time on the gunman's name. I would prefer that he was wrong but in this case it looks like he was right.
   The worry some part now is that he was interviewed twice in the last couple of months by the FBI and still managed to legally buy an assault weapon and ammunition to carry out his deed. That, to me is the question that needs to be answered. I have no doubt that later today the NRA will make a statement that this wouldn't have happened had all the partying gay night club goers had been armed with AR15 assault rifles. Dancing with guns, what could go wrong?

   
   
   
   
4. Bedford Mike P

   
   6/13/2016 5:06 PM

   I agree he was too fast with his public opinion, unless he had inside intel. I doubt he did... I don't like Trump a damn bit, I think his mouth overruns his brain too much for any public office.
   We're seeing the fallout for removing tools to keep us safe. Gitmo has been pretty much neutered, waterboarding has been replaced with CSPAN and high speed internet, our intelligence ties with Israel are dying on the vine.
   Our Commander in Chief wont even say the words radical islamic terrorist.
   If this POS didn't have access to guns, it would have been bombs.
   Gun control as it relates to terrorists boils down to this: make sure they're too dead or detained to pull a trigger.

   
   
   
   
5. Stephen Okula

   

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   6/15/2016 11:06 PM

   Mike P Bedford said: I agree he was too fast with his public opinion, unless he had inside intel. I doubt he did... I don't like Trump a damn bit, I think his mouth overruns his brain too much for any public office.
   We're seeing the fallout for removing tools to keep us safe. Gitmo has been pretty much neutered, waterboarding has been replaced with CSPAN and high speed internet, our intelligence ties with Israel are dying on the vine.
   Our Commander in Chief wont even say the words radical islamic terrorist.
   If this POS didn't have access to guns, it would have been bombs.
   Gun control as it relates to terrorists boils down to this: make sure they're too dead or detained to pull a trigger.

   
   
   
   Yea, if POTUS had said, "radical Islam" then the shooting wouldn't have happened. The blood is on Obama's hands now.
   
   Because they're illegal, bombs are harder to come by than firearms. The shooter may not have been able to make or acquire a bomb. He might then have gone in with a knife or a baseball bat, but there would have been fewer casualties.

   
   
   
   
6. Bedford Mike P

   
   6/23/2016 6:06 PM

   Stephen Okula, CGCS said: Yea, if POTUS had said, "radical Islam" then the shooting wouldn't have happened.

   
   Maybe, maybe not. But a commander who lacks the huevos to even name the enemy isn't likely to defeat them.

   
   
   
   
7. Keith Lamb

   

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   6/24/2016 7:06 AM

   Mike P Bedford said:

   Stephen Okula, CGCS said: Yea, if POTUS had said, "radical Islam" then the shooting wouldn't have happened.

   
   Maybe, maybe not. But a commander who lacks the huevos to even name the enemy isn't likely to defeat them.

   
   
   I mean seriously....are you gonna sleep better if he calls them "radical Islamist"? If that's what bothers you then you probably need to reevaluate your priorities. What actions we are taking I would think would be a little more important than arguing semantics. It's just another way to take focus off the issue and create a non-issue to argue about. ISIS....ISIL or Daesh. I prefer Daesh, but ISIL is the most accurate term.

   
   
   
   
8. Clay Putnam

   

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   6/24/2016 9:06 AM

   The Obama administration's refusal to use the term radical Islam, in and of itself, is relatively minor. However, it is one of many-many edicts by Obama that adds up to a boiling point of the general public. For instance, the Obama administration has been caught a few times editing and deleting transcripts to favor Islam in a more favorable light. Obama continually rails against Christians while scolding these same Christians about Islam. Obama is ferocious toward his political foes while refusing to acknowledge our foreign enemies. Obama refuses to call Daesh what it is, radical Islamists. The list goes on and on. The weight each one is minor. Pile them on the same scale and it becomes suffocating.

   
   
   
   
9. Stephen Okula

   

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   6/25/2016 4:06 AM

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: The Obama administration's refusal to use the term radical Islam, in and of itself, is relatively minor. However, it is one of many-many edicts by Obama that adds up to a boiling point of the general public. For instance, the Obama administration has been caught a few times editing and deleting transcripts to favor Islam in a more favorable light. Obama continually rails against Christians while scolding these same Christians about Islam. Obama is ferocious toward his political foes while refusing to acknowledge our foreign enemies. Obama refuses to call Daesh what it is, radical Islamists. The list goes on and on. The weight each one is minor. Pile them on the same scale and it becomes suffocating.

   
   
   Could you provide us with a couple of instances where Obama edited transcripts or railed against Christians? (He is Christian.)

   
   
   
   
10. Clay Putnam

    

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    6/25/2016 6:06 AM

    Steve,
    
    The most recent edit was in regard to the radical islamist in Orlando. Absurd and quite frankly so PC with the edits that even I was embarrassed for the White House. Then there was the time the White House deleted official video footage of the communication director admitting the white house mislead the press about the Iran deal.
    
    As for the Christians, one that comes to mind was during a speech a year or two ago, on Easter nonetheless. Two of his most famous were the "Christians on their high horse" and "clinging to guns and religion" comments.

    
    
    
    
11. Larry Allan

    

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    6/25/2016 8:06 AM

    A Sacramento Baptist preacher is praising the shooting at LGBT nightclub Pulse in Orlando, Florida, that left 49 victims dead and at least 53 injured.
    
    Pastor Roger Jimenez, who preaches at the Verity Baptist Church, spewed a hate-filled sermon Sunday after the early-morning shooting that targeted the LGBT venue on Latin night.
    
    "Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?" Jimenez said in a sermon, uploaded to the Verity Baptist Church YouTube account. "Um no, I think that's great! I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida, is a little safer tonight."
    
    "As Christians, should we be mourning the death of these 50 vile, perverted predators?" he added.
    
    He apparently wanted to instruct parishioners on the "Biblical respons" to the massacre.
    
    "All I'm saying is that when people die who deserve to die, it's not a tragedy," he said to reports outside his home Tuesday, per the Sacramento Bee. "There's no tragedy. I wish the government would round them all up, put them up against a firing wall, put a firing squad in front of them, and blow their brains out."
    
    Protestors pushed back by picketing outside the church against Jimenez's rhetoric Wednesday while he was giving his first sermon since Sunday.
    
    "We won't stand up for this in our community," one protestor told Fox40.
    
    Mayor of Sacramento Kevin Johnson also spoke out against him.

    
    
    
    
12. Clay Putnam

    

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    6/25/2016 9:06 AM

    The Baptist minister is a fool and anyone following his message is a fool. They all should be called out. Which they are by Obama and others, as radical Christians. In addition, all Christians are lumped together in the "call outs". Tell me, when was the last you heard this administration call out a radical Muslim? How many times have you heard this administration say the radicals do not represent all of Islam? The contrast of Obamas rhetoric between Christians and Muslims is obvious and striking.

    
    
    
    
13. Larry Allan

    

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    6/26/2016 4:06 AM

    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Steve,
    
    The most recent edit was in regard to the radical islamist in Orlando. Absurd and quite frankly so PC with the edits that even I was embarrassed for the White House. Then there was the time the White House deleted official video footage of the communication director admitting the white house mislead the press about the Iran deal.
    
    As for the Christians, one that comes to mind was during a speech a year or two ago, on Easter nonetheless. Two of his most famous were the "Christians on their high horse" and "clinging to guns and religion" comments.

    
    The more you read about the guy, the less it sounds to me that he was in fact a radical Islamist. The title of the post says it all. He sounds more like a closeted gay man who couldn't come to terms with his sexuality and took it out on that group along with the grabbing additional coverage by stating he was doing it for the Islamic state

    
    
    
    
14. Peter Bowman

    

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    6/28/2016 11:06 PM

    I don't want to jump to any conclusions, so, for now, I think I'm gonna go with the guys who perpetrated the Istanbul airport shootings/suicide bombings probably just had aviophobia. Something as simple as that.

    
    
    
    
15. Larry Allan

    

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    6/29/2016 4:06 AM

    Different place. Different situation

    
    
    
    
16. Clay Putnam

    

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    6/29/2016 5:06 AM

    ... same religion.

    
    
    
    
17. Peter Bowman

    

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    6/29/2016 8:06 AM

    John Kerry, our top diplomat, on the Istanbul Airport bombing........
    
    'I won't comment further on it except to say that this is daily fare and that's why I say the first challenge we need to face is countering non-state violent actors, for a host of reasons,' Kerry added Tuesday.
    
    Non-state violent actors. How does one even come up with those four words, arranged in that order, for a situation like this. What a dufus.

    
    
    
    
18. Peter Bowman

    

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    6/29/2016 8:06 AM

    Keith Lamb said:

    Mike P Bedford said:

    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: Yea, if POTUS had said, "radical Islam" then the shooting wouldn't have happened.

    
    Maybe, maybe not. But a commander who lacks the huevos to even name the enemy isn't likely to defeat them.

    
    
    I mean seriously....are you gonna sleep better if he calls them "radical Islamist"? If that's what bothers you then you probably need to reevaluate your priorities. What actions we are taking I would think would be a little more important than arguing semantics. It's just another way to take focus off the issue and create a non-issue to argue about. ISIS....ISIL or Daesh. I prefer Daesh, but ISIL is the most accurate term.

    
    
    Sorry, the above comment I made with John Kerry's reaction should have been placed here.....
    
    'I won't comment further on it except to say that this is daily fare and that's why I say the first challenge we need to face is countering non-state violent actors, for a host of reasons,' Kerry added Tuesday.
    
    Non-state violent actors. How does one even come up with those four words, arranged in that order, for a situation like this. What a dufus.
    
    He comes up with crap like this because the administration's ban on saying radical Islam. No reason that should bother anybody.

    
    
    
    
19. Sandy Clark

    

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    6/29/2016 9:06 AM

    Kerry is a very poor rep for our country. He is not bright and is nothing but a puppet for the administration. Has he ever said anything intelligent sounding? Check out his body of work in his current position. Most everything he has uttered has been foolish sounding.

    
    
    
    
20. Steve Nelson

    

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    6/29/2016 1:06 PM

    Larry Allan said:

    
    The more you read about the guy, the less it sounds to me that he was in fact a radical Islamist. The title of the post says it all. He sounds more like a closeted gay man who couldn't come to terms with his sexuality and took it out on that group along with the grabbing additional coverage by stating he was doing it for the Islamic state
    
    There is a lot of truth in this statement. Not the whole truth but sexual repression and trying to save face with daddy certainly seems to be a big part of his motivation.