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  1. James Gray
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    7/27/2013 8:07 AM
    Looking at two to three greens that look a little off. Couple of odd patches that look like dry grass. There have been 3 confirmed cases of take all in the area. Two weeks ago I did a stellar and insignia drench so it would seem unlikely that take all or anthracnose is the cause. With the mild weather we have been having I would hate to have to explain a green going south to my members. I did a tebuconazole drench on 2 greens yesterday and plan to evaluate on Monday. I was wondering if a broad spectrum spray of Tartan,Medallion and Signature would be appropriate??? And if anyone has sprayed that mix before thanks

    Also 10 days ago i did a primo 26/36 app .



  2. Andrew Cross
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    5 posts
    7/28/2013 9:07 AM
    Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper and much more informative to overnight a sample to your favorite diagnosis lab? Rather than throwing really expensive darts and hoping it clears up?



  3. Wahlin Scott B
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    7/28/2013 11:07 AM
    I had a pathologist tell me that all of the diseases are always there. If you put the turf sample in the perfect environment to grow fungi, they grow. Taking a sample then throwing all the expensive darts always worked quite well for me. I worked at a golf course that had horrific necrotic fairy ring. Half of the turf would be dead, dead, dead in a day. The greens were terrible when I got there. They were perfect for four years and terrible again two weeks after I left. Throw the freaking darts is what I say! :)



  4. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    7/28/2013 12:07 PM
    James Gray said: Looking at two to three greens that look a little off. Couple of odd patches that look like dry grass. There have been 3 confirmed cases of take all in the area. Two weeks ago I did a stellar and insignia drench so it would seem unlikely that take all or anthracnose is the cause. With the mild weather we have been having I would hate to have to explain a green going south to my members. I did a tebuconazole drench on 2 greens yesterday and plan to evaluate on Monday. I was wondering if a broad spectrum spray of Tartan,Medallion and Signature would be appropriate??? And if anyone has sprayed that mix before thanks

    Also 10 days ago i did a primo 26/36 app .



    I wouldn't discount take-all as the problem even though you treated for it. It's not so easy to treat root pathogens. Even if you did take care of it the root zone may have already been compromised and thus the appearance of dry grass. That's how we first figured it out. It appeared as localized hot spot even after these areas where hand watered.

    I dealt with this bugger the past five or six seasons. It did a number on our bentgrass conversion. It seems to attack even without expressing symptoms in some areas. To me it appears to be just enough to stress the bent in favor of the Poa. Then, this year I have not seen it with the exception of one small patch on the back of a green and our bentgrass conversion is back to full steam ahead. We have been dedicated to the manganese sulfate protocols listed in the research. I think this has been even more effective than fungicides,

    Take a look at the roots. If they are black and withered towards the bottom and white nearer the crown, I'd say you have a good chance it is take-all. And despite what Scott says send in a sample.



  5. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    7/28/2013 1:07 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    James Gray said: Looking at two to three greens that look a little off. Couple of odd patches that look like dry grass. There have been 3 confirmed cases of take all in the area. Two weeks ago I did a stellar and insignia drench so it would seem unlikely that take all or anthracnose is the cause. With the mild weather we have been having I would hate to have to explain a green going south to my members. I did a tebuconazole drench on 2 greens yesterday and plan to evaluate on Monday. I was wondering if a broad spectrum spray of Tartan,Medallion and Signature would be appropriate??? And if anyone has sprayed that mix before thanks

    Also 10 days ago i did a primo 26/36 app .



    I wouldn't discount take-all as the problem even though you treated for it. It's not so easy to treat root pathogens. Even if you did take care of it the root zone may have already been compromised and thus the appearance of dry grass. That's how we first figured it out. It appeared as localized hot spot even after these areas where hand watered.

    I dealt with this bugger the past five or six seasons. It did a number on our bentgrass conversion. It seems to attack even without expressing symptoms in some areas. To me it appears to be just enough to stress the bent in favor of the Poa. Then, this year I have not seen it with the exception of one small patch on the back of a green and our bentgrass conversion is back to full steam ahead. We have been dedicated to the manganese sulfate protocols listed in the research. I think this has been even more effective than fungicides,

    Take a look at the roots. If they are black and withered towards the bottom and white nearer the crown, I'd say you have a good chance it is take-all. And despite what Scott says send in a sample.


    I agree with Ron. If it is Take All, the affected spots are S.O.L. once symptoms appear. Throwing darts at this point is fruitless. Prevent apps need to made in the fall and spring. Carl Spackler would tells us "pH and manganese".



  6. Dalton Andrew
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    7/28/2013 8:07 PM
    Did you by any chance push fungicides past the target area?

    Andy



  7. Egan Bryce
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    7/30/2013 7:07 PM
    Depending on how "off" they look, send a soil sample out to test for nematodes. They cause a green to look plain weird. Not like LDS or disease, but like phyto that is unevenly distributed among individual grass plants.



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