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1. Fleegel Timothy

   
   3/21/2012 11:03 AM

   Sean Payton suspended for a year, Greg Williams suspended indefinitely, 2nd round picks in 2012 and 2013, Mickey Loomis 8 games and 500k, Saints fined 500k
   
   Wow...

   
   
   
   
2. McCallum David K

   
   3/21/2012 12:03 PM

   Damn did anyone get the number on that bus..................and assistant head coach suspended first 6 games with no pay .........Benson has a lot of freed up money for Drew now..........

   
   
   
   
3. Steven Huffstutler

   

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   3/21/2012 12:03 PM

   Look at the bright side, they'll save $10 million this year. It could be worse, you could have Tebow.
   
   Steve

   
   
   
   
4. Fleegel Timothy

   
   3/21/2012 1:03 PM

   It's a harsh penalty but I think it's very fair. What if this bounty program resulted in players getting seriously hurt or even had a career ended?

   
   
   
   
5. Steve Nelson

   

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   3/21/2012 2:03 PM

   Does anybody seriously believe that there wasn't something similar at every NFL team?

   
   
   
   
6. Sandy Clark

   

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   3/21/2012 3:03 PM

   Gus, I believe you are right with your assertion. I also believe it is about time this was addressed. As big and fast as these guys are, someone will get killed on the field from one of these unnecessary or bounty hits. How many times have you seen a kicker wiped out completely away from the play. That guy isn't going to make the tackle so why hit him. The same goes for hits you see on receivers that are not going to make a reception or a tackle on an interception. You see the same with quarterbacks. The guy has released the ball and some 265 pound linebacker takes him out at full speed. You know he is making the hit to intimidate or take out the QB. To make it worse, they act shocked when the flag is thrown!

   
   
   
   
7. McCallum David K

   
   3/22/2012 6:03 AM

   As much as I hate to see my Saints hammered, they unfortunately were guilty. Listening to Bill Polian yesterday as a long time GM he stated every NFL locker room has a poster dealing specifically with bounties and extra incentives for players dealing with such. The were warned more than once and they got caught......time to pay the fiddler. It will end up costing Peyton right at $ 7.5 million for the year.........biggest fine ever levied in the NFL. So much for the Super Bowl being in NO for next season.......

   
   
   
   
8. Sean Hoolehan

   

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   3/22/2012 7:03 AM

   This is a example of how desperate things are for the NFL. Fans are not paying attention to it but the NFL is in big trouble for lots of $$$ in compensation to former players who have serious health issues. It is too little too late.
   
   September 08, 2011|By LaMar C. Campbell, Special to CNN
   
   • The average age of retired NFL players is 28;
   
   • Within five years of leaving the league, 75% of NFL players end up broke, divorced or unemployed;
   
   • 65% of NFL players leave the game with permanent injuries;
   
   • At least 20% of players reading this are clinically depressed;
   
   • The average life expectancy for retired NFL players is 53-59 years.
   
   When you look at the statistics for the life of an NFL player, coupled with the CTE symptoms from repeated concussions, this checklist makes you wonder if "NFL" really stands for "not for long."
   
   
   This is kinda tough to explain away.

   
   
   
   
9. Steven Huffstutler

   

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   3/22/2012 6:03 PM

   Just for arguments' sake, lets say I offer you ten thousand bucks to cripple the Superintendent who works next door and then I up the ante by offerring you 20k if he never works again............what do you suppose would be the result when all of this bargaining came to light? That's right...A LAWSUIT!
   
   In any other industry what was going on would be considered a crime. I really don't think this is the end of this.
   
   Regards,
   
   Steve

   
   
   
   
10. McCallum David K

    
    3/23/2012 6:03 AM

    Well you are probably right Steve. I see the Honorable Senator Dick Durbin has convened a senate committee to invesitgate BOUNTYGATE. I am sure after his thorough investigation he will get to the bottom of this very serious offense. I can see this investigation leading to all kinds of good things..........the price of oil will plumet, unemployment will fall to acceptabale rates, Iran will come willingly to the bargining table with blueprints in hand of all of their nuke plants, housing will boom again, the democrats and republicans will make nice nice and al-Quaida will join hands in singing Kum-by-ya..........this investigation has far reaching affects on not only the NFL but peace on earth as well. Sure its just an oversight he did not see fit to convene an investigation into the Chicago Bear wide receiver that was part of a nation wide cocaine trafficing ring.......
    
    Like a woman with two black eyes...........the Saint's were warned not once but twice and lied about it......time to take the punishment and move on........and lets forgot about senate investigations ......but again they could hook up with the senators from Utah and tie the BCS and Bountygate into to one and speed up the process.

    
    
    
    
11. Steven Huffstutler

    

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    3/23/2012 8:03 AM

    Congressional investigations we don't need, but I won't be surprised to see some civil action. If this happened in our industry, someone would have been arrested.

    
    
    
    
12. McCallum David K

    
    3/23/2012 8:03 AM

    You are correct if it happened in the golf industry that would be the case. The difference being is tackling and injuries are part of the culture of the NFL. Bounties are illegal, no arguement there. It is posted in every NFL locker room stating such. What the Saints players engaged in along with the staff was wrong and against NFL policy. I have watched every Saints game, either on TV or in the Dome for the past 3 years and very few and I do mean very few flags were thrown for the tackles made. Hard, punishing and at times disabling, but very few drew a penalty. Curt Warner even stated the block on the pick he threw in the 09 playoff game that took him out was legal and it along with a career of such blocks and tackles contributed to his decision to retire.........not that one block by Bobby McCray

    
    
    
    
13. Steve Nelson

    

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    3/23/2012 10:03 AM

    Right DMAC, it's part of the culture and will be difficult to truly control. A 'bounty' of a few grand is chump change to these guys, it's the professional equivalent of a helmet sticker that they give kids for big plays all the way from pop warner to college. Most of the time the 'hit' is not illegal, it's clean and legal but still does damage. It's really just incidental to the game itself.

    
    
    
    
14. Steven Huffstutler

    

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    3/23/2012 2:03 PM

    The fact that hitting and tackling and injuries is part of the business of the sport is beside the point and a false equivalence. If it's a crime to hire a hit man in the golf industry, it is also a crime to hire a hit man in the football industry. I like a good, clean hit as much as anyone and I am not particularly fond of the new rules that protect the QB to the point that it has dramatically changed the game, but that is a far cry from the crime that occurred here.

    
    
    
    
15. Steven Kurta

    

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    3/25/2012 1:03 PM

    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said: Look at the bright side, they'll save $10 million this year. It could be worse, you could have Tebow.
    
    Steve