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1. Ben Eggleton

   

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   9/13/2013 6:09 AM

   We are in the process of converting our driving range tee line and practice greens to Patriot Bermuda. We cannot apply any pesticides and we can only use organic fertilizer. We are located just north of Long Island. Is anyone using this cultivar and how low can it be mowed at? Any feedback would be much appreciated.

   
   
   
   
2. Thomas Tipton

   

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   9/16/2013 10:09 AM

   Ben,
   Many courses here in Maryland are using Patriot and other newer bermudas on fairways. This summer we completed the sprigging of Latitude 36 on two fairways and renovated our practice area last year with Latitude 36, and found that it is far superior to Patriot in color retention, early green-up, as well as a reduced thatch layer(puffiness) compared to most "Northern" Bermudas especially Patriot. We currently mow our fairways at a 1/2" but we sodded Latitude 36 on our collars around our two practice greens and mow it at .350". I know that the Philly area has been using a lot more Bermuda's in general but I had not heard of their use in Long Island.

   
   
   
   
3. Melvin Waldron

   

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   9/16/2013 10:09 AM

   Thomas,
   
   What are you doing to keep the bermuda from encroaching onto your greens?
   You do have bentgrass greens? Wondering if that might be an option to our zoysia collars which just can not handle the traffic.
   
   One of our courses use the Patriot on some tees and it has seemed to work for them to a degree, it is their par 3 course and gets pretty abused.
   
   Have heard the KC Royals have switched to Latitude 36 on their field this summer and so far they are pleased with it, maybe that is why they are still in the playoff chase (well until their stupid manager left their starting pitcher out there well into the 8th inning yesterday. What a moron Yost is, has the best bullpen in the majors……I guess this is for another thread).
   
   Thanks, Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
4. Shallenberger DJ

   
   9/16/2013 10:09 PM

   Just visited the Royals and Chiefs Friday. They are using Northbridge bermuda. It is in spectacular shape. Suppose to be more winter tolerant.

   
   
   
   
5. Aaron Wells

   

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   9/17/2013 5:09 AM

   We are just completing our first summer with a new Latitude 36 range tee. We had planned on using the Patriot until we sodded a few areas the previous summer to test the two varieties and the choice was an easy one. Latitude has a much finer leaf blade making similar to our bentgrass fwys on the course. Like Thomas mentioned it will green up about 2 weeks earlier in the Spring and keep it's color 2 weeks later in the fall than the Patriot. Our recovery time for divots in the summer is about 7 days. We've used the Earthworks 5-4-5 on it and had some good results, so I wouldn't be concerned about the organic fert. use. If you are still in the planning stages of your project it may be worth taking a look at the Latitude again.

   
   
   
   
6. Melvin Waldron

   

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   9/17/2013 7:09 AM

   DJ Shallenberger said: Just visited the Royals and Chiefs Friday. They are using Northbridge bermuda. It is in spectacular shape. Suppose to be more winter tolerant.

   Thanks DJ, I thought I had heard that it was Latitude 36 from University of Missouri, could the infield have been done in Latitude and the outfield Northbridge? Of course watching the Royals broadcast I heard from Hud that they replaced the grass and that was about it. Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
7. Thomas Tipton

   

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   9/17/2013 11:09 AM

   Honestly, the Latitude collars has not moved into our L-93 greens. I think it comes down to the fact that it will not tolerate the low greens mowing heights. I used these on our USGA practice greens because of the abuse and traffic and they have held up perfectly. Our future plan is to go up into the approaches with the Latitude and then tie-in with sod the rest of the approach and collars after the sprigs have grown-in.

   
   
   
   
8. Kenneth Ingram

   

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   9/17/2013 5:09 PM

   Our sports field manager here on campus says the wear tolerance of Latitude far superior to Patriot. Kenneth Ingram, UMD

   
   
   
   
9. Ben Eggleton

   

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   9/18/2013 6:09 AM

   Thanks for all the responses! Your input is greatly appreciated. Do your think that Lattitude 36 could maintained at .200?

   
   
   
   
10. Melvin Waldron

    

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    9/18/2013 9:09 AM

    Thomas Tipton said: Honestly, the Latitude collars has not moved into our L-93 greens. I think it comes down to the fact that it will not tolerate the low greens mowing heights. I used these on our USGA practice greens because of the abuse and traffic and they have held up perfectly. Our future plan is to go up into the approaches with the Latitude and then tie-in with sod the rest of the approach and collars after the sprigs have grown-in.

    
    
    Thanks Thomas,
    
    We do have a couple of holes that have baby bermuda (I believe, it was sprigged into a couple of spots when one of the other cities courses did their grow-in with it) on the collars and they have not encroached on our penn cross greens, (not like the common has on some of our 50-year-old push-ups. The zoysia in low traffic areas have been great, but in high traffic areas around walk ons from golfers, equipment and the like, bermuda has taken over.
    
    Of course I'm sure watering practices have encouraged that as well?
    
    Thanks! Mel

    
    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
    
    
11. Shallenberger DJ

    
    9/18/2013 12:09 PM

    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:

    DJ Shallenberger said: Just visited the Royals and Chiefs Friday. They are using Northbridge bermuda. It is in spectacular shape. Suppose to be more winter tolerant.

    Thanks DJ, I thought I had heard that it was Latitude 36 from University of Missouri, could the infield have been done in Latitude and the outfield Northbridge? Of course watching the Royals broadcast I heard from Hud that they replaced the grass and that was about it. Mel

    
    Mel,
    The infield is Northbridge. Outfield is still a kentucky/rye mix. It is beat up as you would suspect. Arrowhead is Northbridge as well.

    
    
    
    
12. Cody Beckley

    

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    9/19/2013 9:09 AM

    Ben Eggleton said: Thanks for all the responses! Your input is greatly appreciated. Do your think that Lattitude 36 could maintained at .200?

    
    
    I have one approach currently at .400 and we got it there from 3/4" without a sweat. I think it could be done if properly regulated.