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Sprigging zoysia and barricade in soil

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  1. James Gray
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    5/20/2014 12:05 PM
    I have suffered 11 acres of common and quickstand Bermuda death.
    We are located in southern illinois. Standard round up/ barricade app went out late February.
    23 oz /acre of the round up/ about .7 a.i of prodiamine.
    Now looking to sprig zoysia in about 3 weeks. Research has led me to the following program.
    Major soil disturbance( 3/4" aerification tines and multiple directions)
    Drag cores and apply 20gallons per acre of humid acid.
    Water in Humic. Then proceed with sprigging and do 2 follow up apps of 5 gallons per acre during grow in.
    The only adverse effects from the barricade would be some slight stunting during the rooting process but should not
    Cause any death.

    What do you think folks? I'd hate to waste $25,000.



  2. James Gray
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    1 posts
    5/21/2014 12:05 PM
    Hmmm.



  3. Larry Allan
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    5/22/2014 9:05 AM
    James Gray said: Hmmm.

    I read it James but as a Canuck, I've never seen Zoysia or heard of Barricade. The only Bermuda I ever saw was over the steam lines at State College PA



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    5/22/2014 10:05 AM
    I honestly have not heard of sprigging zoysia, I don't think it would fill in quick enough like the quickstand did.

    I have heard of putting in strips of zoysia sod and letting it slowly take over cool season stands.

    I have heard of stunting of roots by barricade as well, when we knew we were sprigging our quickstand we went with Ronstar, but of course that was planned, unlike what happened to you.

    You might want to contact your local extension person, or maybe the team at Mizzou or Purdue, they might be able to offer suggestions. Some pretty sharp people at both places in my opinion.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. David Stone
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    9 posts
    5/22/2014 12:05 PM
    James,

    I do not know if what you describe will be enough to reduce the Barricade or not. Perhaps it will. For sure if you wanted weed control it would be gone! Years ago with Meyer we started noticing our clean-up cut around fairways was thinning. We had been using Ronstar but switched to Barricade that one year (needless to say the only year). Ronstar remains the peremerge herbicide (including the new one Spectacle) that does the least damage to root systems.

    I think there was a golf course in Kentucky 20-25 years ago that sprigged Meyer in their fairways and got it about 90% grown in during one season. I would consider a couple of other zoysia rather than Meyer for sprigging. They would be either Palisades or El Toro. They are coarser textured than Mayer and not quite as dense. They are more shade tolerant. They are probably second to Meyer for winter hardiness but recover much faster than Meyer if they have winter injury without being totally killed. They also heal divots much faster. Palisades and El Toro both get Large Patch much worse than Meyer but I have seen them totally recover in late spring even with no spraying.

    Another option would be a seeded variety of zoysia (Zenith) that is similar to Meyer though not quite as dense either. There is a golf course in Richmond, KY that has had this grass in fairways for 10-15 years. I do not know how it came through the winter. Also a seeded grass may be even more damaged if Barricade was still present in your soil.

    Still another option could be one of the new bermudas. I do not know if there is enough of the Latitude 36 or Northbridge available to sprigg either of those grasses or not. I also do not know how they came through the winter. I would not write either of them off just because they may not have made it on a range tee somewhere. I think the winter survival of one of them in fairways is likely to be much greater. Range tees have so much heavy devoting during the months when the grass cannot re-grow that I do not think that is a good predictor for how it would do in a fairway in the northern part of the transition zone.

    I hope I have given you some things to thinks about. Good luck with whatever route you choose.

    David Stone
    The Honors Course
    Chattanooga, Tn.



  6. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    5/22/2014 1:05 PM
    You should be fine with the program. Only other option I would include is liquid charcoal with the humic sprays. Soil disturbance is the key, really. .7#a.i. isn't that much barricade, and in my sand Florida soils would probably only stick around 75 days at the most. Your heavier soils, maybe 120. Worse case scenario is the Zoysia won't root in very good and you'd be stuck watering the heck out of it until the Barricade dissipated.



  7. James Gray
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    1 posts
    6/4/2014 7:06 AM
    We have decided to disc the fairways to 3" and then sprig into that a week later.



  8. Steve Wilson
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    6/17/2014 11:06 PM
    I'm with Andy. I think you will be fine. I am a Barricade user and would guess that rate is gone by now or close. I sprigged in a 3 acre zoysia nursery with Meyer about 10 years ago in the KC area. Sprigged in mid-June and was pretty much completely grown in by August of the following year. Zoysia is slow as you know.

    Steve



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