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To turf or not to turf golf course?

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  1. Kim Sang
    Kim Sang avatar
    6/19/2014 10:06 AM
    I am posting to see what the thoughts were on synthetic turf on golf courses. If you have used them, what are the pros and cons about it? How did people react to using them? If you prefer natural grass, why? Please enlighten me.
    3, 2, 1 Forumate.



  2. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    6/19/2014 10:06 AM
    The forum is not the platform to conduct marketing research.



  3. Kim Sang
    Kim Sang avatar
    6/19/2014 10:06 AM
    "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.



  4. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    6/19/2014 10:06 AM
    Sang Kim said: "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.


    Are you asking the question for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility? Or are you asking to gain the perspective of potential clients?

    You understand the cynicism based on your previous posts.



  5. Kim Sang
    Kim Sang avatar
    6/19/2014 12:06 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said: "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.


    Are you asking the question for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility? Or are you asking to gain the perspective of potential clients?

    You understand the cynicism based on your previous posts.


    I acknowledge my former post and the mistake of not reading the guidelines of forums. However reading the rules, I have decided to act on another event that is separate. Not all posts 'have to be related'. I simply would like relative input, I do not think that is much to ask for.



  6. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    6/19/2014 1:06 PM
    Sang Kim said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said: "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.


    Are you asking the question for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility? Or are you asking to gain the perspective of potential clients?

    You understand the cynicism based on your previous posts.


    I acknowledge my former post and the mistake of not reading the guidelines of forums. However reading the rules, I have decided to act on another event that is separate. Not all posts 'have to be related'. I simply would like relative input, I do not think that is much to ask for.


    So the answer to my questions are what?



  7. Kim Sang
    Kim Sang avatar
    6/19/2014 3:06 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said: "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.


    Are you asking the question for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility? Or are you asking to gain the perspective of potential clients?

    You understand the cynicism based on your previous posts.


    I acknowledge my former post and the mistake of not reading the guidelines of forums. However reading the rules, I have decided to act on another event that is separate. Not all posts 'have to be related'. I simply would like relative input, I do not think that is much to ask for.


    So the answer to my questions are what?


    To hear experiences of using synthetic turf. Have you used it and have opinions of it that you are willing to share? If you are idly waiting to answer the question, please do so. I will not harass you to buy my product, I simply want to hear other people's experience, opinion, and to gain knowledge for myself. Or rather are you fully interested in me and my company because I would be happy to share on a different method of communication, if not I am patiently awaiting others' responses.



  8. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    6/19/2014 4:06 PM
    Sang Kim said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Sang Kim said: "GCSAA's online discussion forums are provided as a service of GCSAA and are intended to provide GCSAA members the opportunity to communicate with their peers" I would like the feedback of peers who have utilized it. Would it be so bad to hear their opinion? This forum is also not regulated by you and your own standards.


    Are you asking the question for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility? Or are you asking to gain the perspective of potential clients?

    You understand the cynicism based on your previous posts.


    I acknowledge my former post and the mistake of not reading the guidelines of forums. However reading the rules, I have decided to act on another event that is separate. Not all posts 'have to be related'. I simply would like relative input, I do not think that is much to ask for.


    So the answer to my questions are what?


    To hear experiences of using synthetic turf. Have you used it and have opinions of it that you are willing to share? If you are idly waiting to answer the question, please do so. I will not harass you to buy my product, I simply want to hear other people's experience, opinion, and to gain knowledge for myself. Or rather are you fully interested in me and my company because I would be happy to share on a different method of communication, if not I am patiently awaiting others' responses.


    Again, are you asking the question at the top of this string for the purpose of using synthetic turf at your facility?



  9. Canedo Alberto J
    Canedo Alberto J avatar
    6/20/2014 12:06 AM
    I will take a free sample of about 900 sq. ft for my front yard. I think my dogs would love grass in the yard. :twisted:



  10. Trevor Monreal
    Trevor Monreal avatar
    5 posts
    6/20/2014 1:06 PM
    Based on how this is going...I'll respond:
    I may or may not have used them.
    There are definitely pros and cons.
    And, I'm still trying to find out exactly what the fact pattern is on peoples reaction to synthetic turf.
    Hope this helps



  11. Michael Rogers
    Michael Rogers avatar
    2 posts
    6/21/2014 3:06 AM
    I have worked with dozens of top football clubs as natural turfgrass advisor. These include Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, and many other top clubs none of which use artifical turf on their main pitches.

    There is a general belief that artifical turf is very low maintenance. This is not true it is just about the same.

    FIFA have allowed artificial pitches to very high levels of competition, I believe even to a semifinal of Champion's League. Some countries even have artificial turf in their national stadium.

    The big advantage of artifical is you can have very high number of games played. Disadvantage is player injury.

    Remember the early days of NFL and hip pointers. I am sure things have improved but injury is still a concern.Natural playability is also a question.

    As for golf, my practice facility is natural on ground level and mats on lower level. Hardly anyone uses the mats. Many golf clubs in Europe are installing artificial practice facilities by Southwest Greens, Huxley, and a couple other manufacturers.

    Saludos Michael



  12. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    6/21/2014 8:06 PM
    I have seen very nice examples of synthetic turf greens and even surrounds. I think it is ideal for condos, resorts, hotels and homes that do not have the expertise or ready resources to maintain a living putting green. They have a nice one at the Palm Beach International Airport in the terminal and there are many in The Keys of Florida. Heat seems to be the big drawback for ballfields, but that is not normally a problem with golf because the area can be shaded more easily.

    They might have on in Miami too, but PBI was the airport I was thinking of.



  13. Keith Pegg
    Keith Pegg avatar
    0 posts
    6/22/2014 3:06 PM
    If you do not want to hear from them stop replying to his posts.

    Ez Hybrid Turf Inc.

    looks like they might have a good product however I agree this is not the place to sell. It may be a good idea if GCSAA set up a line in forums just for this type of thing.

    Keith Pegg



  14. Clay Putnam
    Clay Putnam avatar
    33 posts
    6/24/2014 2:06 PM
    Keith Pegg said: It may be a good idea if GCSAA set up a line in forums just for this type of thing.

    Keith Pegg


    They already do. It's called purchasing ad space.

    His post is clearly an end-around to marketing.

    His posts have been yanked on this forum, twice and another forum, twice. What's that tell you?



  15. Keith Pegg
    Keith Pegg avatar
    0 posts
    6/24/2014 3:06 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Keith Pegg said: It may be a good idea if GCSAA set up a line in forums just for this type of thing.

    Keith Pegg


    They already do. It's called purchasing ad space.

    His post is clearly an end-around to marketing.

    His posts have been yanked on this forum, twice and another forum, twice. What's that tell you?


    Clay,
    I agree I do not want to see adds in the Forums, however an add forum is not out line I think.
    "just sayin"
    Keith



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