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Core clean-up question

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  1. Melvin Waldron
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    3/30/2017 8:03 AM
    Question,

    How many of you have something like the Toro Prosweep, JD TC1225 or something similar to pick up cores? Pros and cons?

    My take from long ago, we were able to secure a TC125 at my last course, it really came in handy because when we aerated we were short staff during our dates (our on campus student workers had gone home and we hadn't hired our summer help yet). But when I was doing the math to justify the expense for the two times a year we would use it, my numbers just for greens use, it would take 8 years to equal the return on investment it would save in man hours. Luckily for us we able to say we could use it on tees, our football and other athletic fields, and of course when I mentioned campus, it was approved. (We learned later, that it would not work picking up the leaf and pine cone debris on campus, but hey it was too late to send it back). The other issue back then was we didn't have Turf Pride core collectors behind our aerator, which now makes the clean up job so much easier then pushing plugs and picking them up.

    We are possibly looking at one at our current facilities, 3 golf courses where we would share, the only benefit I see since we have a Turf Pride core collector now is it would free up a couple of guys that we could send to mow.

    I guess I'm looking for some feedback on how much it is getting used, do you consider it a luxury piece of equipment of essential? I like the idea, but with the shape of our current equipment fleet, is it the best purchase with our resources?

    Thanks!

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  2. Keith Fellenstein
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    3/30/2017 10:03 AM
    Mel we have a Smithco sweepstar. Since I've been promoted to Director, the two courses on property share resources...including labor so we've gone away from using the sweeper to clean up cores on greens. We do use it to assist a Wiedenmann 500 with cores on our Bent fairways. The Turf Pride core collectors have made the process on greens so much easier to deal with. The only other thing the small sweeper is used for is goose droppings in the winter/spring. If I had to do it all over again, I'm not so sure I would get a small sweeper, but since I have one, it sure is nice when you need it!



  3. James Smith
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    4/9/2017 8:04 AM
    Mel, due to budget cuts over the last five years I have had to cut back my labor a lot and started using a water hose with a jet nozzle and just wash off all of the cores. by getting closer to the ground you can do it without harming the turf and now it only takes me one guy aerifying the greens and one washing off the cores. We generally come back the second day and pick up the cores from the collars when my other guy is topdressing the greens.



  4. Rocky Tharp
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    4/15/2017 6:04 PM
    We had success with the TC125 on fairways and tees under perfect conditions when the plugs were dry. We didn't find it worked too well on greens and eventually abandoned our efforts with the machine. About 15 years ago each of our City courses received a TC-125 as part of a lease/dollar buy out package. If you visit any of those courses now you'll find each of those machines buried in a boneyard growing blackberry vines. I think it might work well for drier regions but in our area it's just too wet to work.

    Rocky Tharp
    West Seattle Golf Course
    Seattle, WA



  5. Michnuk John
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    5/23/2017 6:05 AM
    We use two Buffalo blowers to blow the plugs off the greens. Then sweep them up with a vacuum. I'm very short staffed so I don't have time to push them into piles and shovel them up. By doing this, I was able to airify, blow plugs topdress, drag and change the cup for next day's play. We do 10 greens per day and I was finished by 1:30 pm.



  6. Christopher Thuer
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    5/25/2017 10:05 AM
    We have a Deere sweeper and it does a great job. But, on greens if there is moisture in the cores, the sweeping action somewhat causes some material to bridge over the holes. This has made it take more effort getting sand to fill the holes. After sweeping the greens clean for the last 15 seasons this past fall we went back to hand shoveling cores and it was easier getting the holes filled. We found some double wide plastic snow shovels at Site One that made core removal go pretty quick.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  7. James Smith
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    112 posts
    5/29/2017 6:05 AM
    John Michnuk said: We use two Buffalo blowers to blow the plugs off the greens. Then sweep them up with a vacuum. I'm very short staffed so I don't have time to push them into piles and shovel them up. By doing this, I was able to airify, blow plugs topdress, drag and change the cup for next day's play. We do 10 greens per day and I was finished by 1:30 pm.

    you know I never even considered using my blower but mainly because I did not want to put a tractor on my green. may at least be worth a try.



  8. Melvin Waldron
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    5/29/2017 3:05 PM
    James Smith said:
    John Michnuk said: We use two Buffalo blowers to blow the plugs off the greens. Then sweep them up with a vacuum. I'm very short staffed so I don't have time to push them into piles and shovel them up. By doing this, I was able to airify, blow plugs topdress, drag and change the cup for next day's play. We do 10 greens per day and I was finished by 1:30 pm.

    you know I never even considered using my blower but mainly because I did not want to put a tractor on my green. may at least be worth a try.


    When I was growing up in Florida, we used to sweep our cores up with a tractor pulling a Toro Vac. Had the little Cushman topdresser, we shoveled the sand into a pick up truck, (didn't have a front end loader), shoveled the sand into the topdresser, and then we had to push the sand into the holes with the back of lute rakes. (1980 time frame)

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  9. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    6/1/2017 6:06 PM
    We did try the pull behind Buffalo a couple of times to wind row the cores to the flat sections of the greens to make sweeping go faster. But we also use it to blow the sand around. We then used the 3 point blower on the tractor a few times, to free up the buffalo to blow the sand, and it surprisingly did no damage to the green. But although smaller, we still had a section on the greens where the sweeper would bridge the sand over the holes.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

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