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1. David Brandenburg

   

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   4/7/2013 9:04 PM

   I joined the trend and applied a dye last fall to our fairways with our snowmold application to provide for a green color this spring and enhance spring green up from the darker color.
   
   The green was there in fall and again in the mid-winter thaw in January but with our long winter and countless rain and snow events there the only thing that is green now is sprinkler heads and yardage markers.
   
   Now I feel as though I wasted the money for the application. I was wondering if others have seen this with the long wet winter seen this or did our product not work as advertised?

   
   
   
   
2. Chad Shafer

   

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   4/7/2013 10:04 PM

   David-what product did you use? I used Interface and Reserve with stress guard technology. The product is made by Bayer. It has a dye in it and it worked awesome. The color was great not to mention we had no break through with snow mold. I am going to use it again this next year. The golfers say the greens are the best they have ever been coming out of the winter. We are located in northeast Utah and we get some pretty rough winters.

   
   
   
   
3. Andy Jorgensen

   

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   4/8/2013 4:04 AM

   Even with paint, I wouldn't expect more than about 90-100 days at the most. With the new pigments (i.e. Foursome, Par, Envy, Green Pig, etc...), our on-site data shows color lasting about 2-3 weeks on average. This is all related to irrigation, rainfall, growth and mowing. If you used a dye, I'm surprised you got more than a few days.

   
   
   
   
4. Callum Haughn

   

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   4/8/2013 6:04 AM

   We used an Instrata/Civitas combo and the greens and tees that had snow cover the entire winter held their color from the harmonizer in the Civitas great. Greens or tees that became exposed during the winter appear to have lost most of their pigment color although it is still evident in the roughs surrounding these areas, on a very diluted scale.
   
   Callum Haughn
   Mill Ridge Golf Course
   Chester, NS, Canada

   
   
   
   
5. David Brandenburg

   

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   4/8/2013 8:04 AM

   Chad Shafer said: David-what product did you use? I used Interface and Reserve with stress guard technology. The product is made by Bayer. It has a dye in it and it worked awesome. The color was great not to mention we had no break through with snow mold. I am going to use it again this next year. The golfers say the greens are the best they have ever been coming out of the winter. We are located in northeast Utah and we get some pretty rough winters.

   
   
   We used the Vision Pro HD from Becker Underwood. It is sold for this purpose. We have had no grass growth so it is not as though the turf grew through the color. Outside of the January thaw the turf was frozen most of the winter.

   
   
   
   
6. Sean Hoolehan

   

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   4/8/2013 9:04 AM

   David,
   
   I used Par from Simplot the past 2 years on greens, tees, and fairways. Eastern Oregon is high desert and we get little continuous snow cover. We didn't plow snow even once this winter. We sprayed in the second week of November and the color was around until early February when we began aerifying Fairways. I do it for aesthetics only. We will have play all winter and it really does a nice job covering up the dormancy. At the GIS this year I looked at many of the companies selling these types of dyes because I plan to expand it to my resort grounds next fall. I also use it on tees in the summer as I can really dry things up because the dye covers up the localized dry spots. I would spend a lot of $ hand watering Tee edges that would look unsightly but have no impact on playability.
   
   I think the application of dye in your area would be first chance in spring, or not at all because the snow cover is going to insulate. It not cheap but it does make dormant turf look better.

   
   
   
   
7. Lisa Wick

   

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   4/8/2013 11:04 AM

   This topic caught my eye as I sat in on a USGA webcast last week on "painting." Pat O'Brien did a great job talking about the different options, how long you can expect them to last and ways to get the most of your money. He also talked about the importance of nozzles. I signed up from the Green Section Record and Jim Moore said the access to the recording of the webcast would come out in the issue of the Record that will be distributed later this month. You might check it out. Lisa

   
   Lisa Wick, sr. manager, e-Learning Programs
   
   
8. Timothy Walker

   

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   4/8/2013 6:04 PM

   Civitas was applied at my new course in the fall with snow mold app. Where there was snow mold damage or bleached turf you can still see some color from the civitas. Where the turf was not impacted you can not see any color from the pigment.
   
   I don't really know how long you could expect to see color from anything other than a turf paint for that long of a time.