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1. Chris Wiedenmeyer

   

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   1/4/2012 8:01 AM

   I know a few months back there was a thread on here with different pin placement sheets that are used around the country.(may have been on the old site) My GM is wanting to use this format next season. I am looking for some examples of what you guys are using. 4 or 5 positions per green would work great for us.
   
   Also what are the pros and cons of this format? Do you put the location of the pin on a scorecard so players can see it also or just for maintenance use?
   
   Thanks

   
   
   
   
2. Wahlin Scott B

   
   1/4/2012 8:01 AM

   Nobody seems to like it, but I was asked to employ a system that I really came appreciate. We took old cups, filled them with concrete, painted them white then installed them on either side of the greens at the midway point. They were simple to install and simple to edge. They were placed so that the center of the green was 150 yards from the markers. The cup cutters were provided with pin placement sheets that instructed to place the pin + or - from the halfway point. The pin could be anywhere on the green but if it said +3 it had to be 153 from the 150 marker. The system gave the cup cutter enough leeway to be creative, which I really liked.

   
   
   
   
3. Christopher Lewis

   

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   1/4/2012 10:01 AM

   we use the simple front, middle, back pin placement technique. The scorecard has the positions laid out on the back cover and our GPS also has the pin locations set for each day. dividing the green into 3 sections it gives our cup cutters the ability to move the pin around the section each day. I like this method because if you have a area of the green that is struggling you can move the pin to the other side of the green, as long as you are in the same section.
   Most of our golfers always seem to be able to hit a maintenance vehicle at any distance, but I believe the safest place to stand on a golf course is right next to the flag stick.

   
   
   
   
4. Wallace Jeffrey V

   
   1/4/2012 12:01 PM

   Christopher Lewis said: "but I believe the safest place to stand on a golf course is right next to the flag stick."

   
   
   Chris,
   
   So true. I've always hated pin sheets for regular play, but gave them out during a tournament. If you have a fairway marker, then it helps most golfers to simply hit the putting surface. Hell, I'm happy to hit the putting surface!
   
   Had a 126 yard par 3 in Mexico. Lake on the right side, but not between the tee and the green. Plenty of sliced shots into the water, so to speed up play, we designated a permanent drop area 10 yards off the putting surface. Even installed a brass marker indicating "Drop Area". Golf pro asked if we could put a yardage on the marker. "What? You can see the pin." "But they should know how far it is to the pin." "They're in the water, for crying out loud! I'm just getting them closer." "But, wouldn't it be nice to show them that it was 14, 17, 22, etc., yards to the pin?" "Yes, that would be nice. But you could also sell glasses at the pro shop and make a little money." "You're making fun of me, aren't you?" "Me? I never make fun of serious issues. Whoa...gotta get to that meeting. Are you part of the golf pro search committee? Want a ride?"

   
   
   
   
5. Ron Dahlin

   

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   1/4/2012 1:01 PM

   Chris:
   
   We designed a daily zone system when I arrived here in 2001. I divided the green down the middle and then again into thirds on each side of the center line (this is the easy part). Then we sat down and devised a system for the 6 locations taking into consideration distance (i.e. 6 front, 6 middle & 6 back) for any given day or zone location (takes some thought) and then tried to make sure that we had the ability to make 6 easy, 6 moderate and 6 difficult hole locations for each day/zone (that is the hardest part).
   
   We change the hole location here every day and using 6 makes sure that we don't have the hole location in the same zone for those that always golf on Tuesday's etc. If there is a reason that we don't change the hole locations on a given day then we move forward two zones the next time that we change them.
   
   We have the daily zone posted (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6) on the welcome sign at the #1 and #10 tee along with a zone map of each green printed on the scorecard.
   
   Sincerely,
   Ron
   p.s. Zone 5 here can be one tough son of a gun!

   
   
   
   
6. Chris Wiedenmeyer

   

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   1/6/2012 12:01 PM

   Thank you all for your help. I will put something together for him. He really wants something he can show the owner, such as a pin placement sheet with locations on greens. Got to justify his job for the week I guess

   
   
   
   
7. James Smith

   

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   1/6/2012 2:01 PM

   Chris Wiedenmeyer said: Thank you all for your help. I will put something together for him. He really wants something he can show the owner, such as a pin placement sheet with locations on greens. Got to justify his job for the week I guess

   
   I also use the 6 placement sheet but only for my cup changer. Simply put we are open 6 days a week and change cups an average of three times a week that way we get two weeks out of the six locations. I personally built the sheet and we had put it on the scorecards but then you have to have a location to post which placement you are using (bad idea). Most of our golfers who cares have range finders which we have set our flag poles up for.

   
   
   
   
8. Kenneth Lee

   

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   1/17/2012 9:01 AM

   Chris,
   
   Send me your email and I will send you an example of what we are doing at our club.
   
   Ken Lee
   klee@cherokeetcc.org

   
   
   
   
9. Larned Fred

   
   1/17/2012 10:01 AM

   Red front White middle and blue back how easy for your guys to remember I cant stand pin location sheets. just my two cents

   
   
   
   
10. Werner Thomas S

    
    1/17/2012 1:01 PM

    We use a system of six different hole locations over the course of a week. Many weeks during the year we change holes seven days per week due to Monday outings. During the winter and bad weather days that may change to 3-4 times per week. We also implement a strategy of locating holes away from stressed areas and recently renovated locations (seeded or sodded) when necessary even if it deviates from the intended location. Our flags are red, white, or blue for front, middle and back hole locations. All flagsticks have prisms for those using range finders and the rental carts have locations to the front, middle and back of all greens. I personally do not like any kind of yardage markers, hole location sheets, but whatever is required to make the round more enjoyable with the least amount of input is fine with me. I also do not like ropes, signs, ballwashers and other accessories either, but use them anyway. That question was asked, but who needs a ballwasher since the invention of a the wet towel? Do you drive through your front yard after a rainstorm, so the same applies to driving a golf cart? And as for signs, I just don't like them and can't figure out why. Maybe they are annoying and I have an annoying personality.