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Time to get off the fence???

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  1. Hulteen Mike
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  2. Melvin Waldron
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    1/6/2014 2:01 PM
    Mike,

    I do not believe the first link that shows Jews lining up to register themselves compared to Conn. citizens lining up to register certain types of firearms and their attachments is anything similar. One thing is not like the other.

    I believe the picture/billboard in the second link is just a scare tactic for one side to raise more money for themselves and to continue to divide this country. Anyone that can think for themselves would know that there are commonsense things that could and should be done; things that even the right have done before. Look at what President Regan suggested when he was Governor of California and after he retired as the President of the United States.

    Maybe more people should be getting on the fence and seeing things from the middle. But that's just my opinion.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  3. Steven Huffstutler
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    1/6/2014 3:01 PM
    I dont get it. Are you saying that if I sign up for insurance, that I'm a Jew?
    Which fence did you get off of because it doesn't seem like you are very conflicted about this. Was it the fence dividing Loonyland from the rest of us?



  4. Keith Lamb
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    1/6/2014 3:01 PM
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwmzcnCF50[/youtube">



  5. Steven Huffstutler
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    1/6/2014 6:01 PM
    By Barbara Thiede
    In 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany. By the time of his death in 1945, Europe lay in ruins, the Holocaust had claimed 12 million victims, and the world had suffered its deadliest conflict. More than four hundred thousand U.S. servicemen lay dead.

    In 2013, a full 80 years later, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was, indeed, constitutional.

    But in this last year, this single act has wreaked more havoc on the United States than the National Socialists ever did, let alone the Cold War and terrorism.

    This is the world according to N.C. Sen. Bob Rucho (R-Mecklenburg), who tweeted that "Justice Robert's pen & Obamacare has done more damage to the USA then the swords of the Nazis, Soviets & terrorists combined."

    Note that Mr. Rucho says "has don" and not "will do," indicating that all this damage was done in 2013. Factoring in U.S. casualties from Vietnam and Korea, both Cold War conflicts, and fighting terrorism in Afghanistan, we should expect Obamacare to cause 500,000 yearly deaths, and another 900,000 wounded.

    Astute readers may note that we have included the Pacific theater, whereas the Nazis were primarily involved in Europe. However, Japan might not have attacked the U.S. if it had not been encouraged by its alliance with Nazi Germany.

    By extension, we should see similar secondary consequences from the Affordable Care Act, such as a Japanese invasion.

    Equating Nazism's horrors or Stalin's purges or terrorist atrocities with any sort of health care legislation is, frankly, ludicrous.

    Even so, Rucho neither apologized nor made excuses for his words. Instead, after hearing much in the way of protest, he wrote: "Those that tweeted, put your thinking caps back on: ‘The PEN is mightier than the SWORD.' Edward Bulwar-Lytton, 1839. But surely you knew that."

    This is a fair point. Consider: If Hitler had invaded France with tank-mounted machine fountain pens, and had dropped highlighter-pen bombs on London from dive-briefcases, World War II might have had a very different outcome. Highlighter bombs would certainly give new meaning to the phrase "the yellow peril."

    Here's my point: Rucho's tweets prove that the debate on Obamacare has moved past the point of real concern: How do we, as a society, treat our citizens? In what ways is our government responsible for the care of Americans?

    The job of our representatives is to care for the welfare of the citizenry. Keeping that charge in mind, our representatives must face real facts:

    In 2012, North Carolina ranked 34th among the 50 states and the District of Columbia in caring for the well-being of children.

    Less than a year and a half ago, The Charlotte Observer noted that "the number of children living in high-poverty neighborhoods nearly tripled over the past decade, increasing from 76,000 in 2000 to 212,000 (in 2012)."

    The federal government has just issued poverty rates for 2012: Almost one-fifth of North Carolinians live in poverty. The nonprofit No Kid Hungry reports that one in four children in the state goes hungry.

    Food banks and crisis assistance organizations are giving less food to individuals and their families. Why? They have been forced to spread everything as thinly as possible, thanks to cuts our state legislators have made in unemployment benefits and delays in delivering food stamps.

    Health care is one of a number of pressing issues that deserves reasoned and intelligent attention from our representatives. What is actually happening?

    Absurdity piled on absurdity. Ridiculous, obscene comparisons that show utter contempt for the sufferings of real human beings, past and present.




    Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/1 ... rylink=cpy



  6. Keith Lamb
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    1/6/2014 7:01 PM
    Soooo....Jesus is against food stamps and healthcare? Delusional Disorder is covered by the ACA but not Obamacare?.....or should we call it Hitlercare now since so many are going to die? Man, you sure know how to confuse people with that reality based story stuff.



  7. Steven Huffstutler
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    1/7/2014 5:01 AM
    Keith Lamb said: Soooo....Jesus is against food stamps and healthcare? Delusional Disorder is covered by the ACA but not Obamacare?.....or should we call it Hitlercare now since so many are going to die? Man, you sure know how to confuse people with that reality based story stuff.


    For some reason, the extreme right feels the need to equate Obamacare with the Holocaust. I cant quite wrap my head around why since one event involved killing 6 million people and the other involves the possiblility of enrolling people against their will into an insurance program that may actuall save a few lives.

    I have never thought that Obamacare was constitutional, but apparently, the Supreme Court disagreed with me so now I have decided to continue on with my life and not act like the sky is falling because of it.

    Regards,

    Steve



  8. Keith Fellenstein
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    1/7/2014 8:01 AM
    Did I miss something? I was under the impression the links were about gun control. Maybe I'm not hypersensitive to criticism of nobamacare that I see windmills everywhere?



  9. Ashton Alan W
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    1/7/2014 8:01 AM
    Mike Hulteen, CGCS said: https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/p240x240/1538754_10202284192460285_193129223_n.jpg



    http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/pho ... c0d5bfa32a


    If registering your gun is the issue, perhaps registering your gun safe would be sufficient? I seem to recall a mother who paid with her life for her failure to secure her weapons...



  10. Robert Crockett
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    1/7/2014 10:01 AM
    Keith Lamb said: [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwmzcnCF50[/youtube">

    Can you say any of those 3x real fast?



  11. Robert Crockett
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    1/7/2014 10:01 AM
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said: I dont get it. Are you saying that if I sign up for insurance, that I'm a Jew?
    Which fence did you get off of because it doesn't seem like you are very conflicted about this. Was it the fence dividing Loonyland from the rest of us?

    Compare and contrast Steve.....



  12. Steven Kurta
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    1/14/2014 7:01 AM
    WAKE UP, SHEEPLE



  13. Stephen Okula
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    1/23/2014 12:01 AM
    "This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" –Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Trouble is, Hitler never made such a speech in 1935. Nor is there any record that he ever spoke these particular words at all. This little "speech" was obviously written for him, many years after his death, by someone who wanted you to believe that gun registration is Hitler-evil.

    What he did say, seven years later, was this: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." So it's fair to conclude that he believed "gun control" had its uses. But that's quite a different thing from claiming that "gun control" was instrumental in the Nazi rise to power.

    And the truth is that no gun law was passed in Germany in 1935. There was no need for one, since a gun registration program was already in effect in Germany; it was enacted in 1928, five years before Hitler's ascendancy. But that law did not "outlaw" guns, it just restricted their possession to individuals who were considered law-abiding citizens, and who had a reason to own one. And there's no reason to consider that law particularly significant, either; the Nazis didn't seize control of their own country with gunpowder. They used a much more potent weapon: propaganda.

    Jews comprised less than one percent of the German population. Why didn't the other 99 percent come to their defense and fight off Nazi tyranny? Quite simply, because they didn't want to. They'd been persuaded that what was happening was best for their country, and that the Jews deserved what they got. It was propaganda, not firepower, that made the difference.



  14. Steven Kurta
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    2/21/2014 10:02 AM
    Why do hate jews, Okula?



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