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  1. Steven Kurta
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    7/27/2012 4:07 AM
    Guidelines by DC Chief of Police on how to handle being photographed as a cop.
    Anyone see a problem with this?

    http://boingboing.net/2012/07/26/dc-pol ... treme.html



  2. Larry Allan
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    7/27/2012 5:07 AM
    Seems very reasonable to me



  3. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    7/27/2012 5:07 AM
    Reasonable, except this...

    "That applies even in cases where the citizen is recording "from a position that impedes or interferes with the safety of members or their ability to perform their duties." In that situation, she says, the officer may ask the person to move out of the way, but the officer "shall not order the person to stop photographing or recording."



  4. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    7/27/2012 5:07 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Reasonable, except this...

    "That applies even in cases where the citizen is recording "from a position that impedes or interferes with the safety of members or their ability to perform their duties." In that situation, she says, the officer may ask the person to move out of the way, but the officer "shall not order the person to stop photographing or recording."


    And if the person does not move out of the way, they can then arrest for "Obstructing a Law Enforcement Officer", which would stop the camera from recording.

    I see nothing wrong with this.



  5. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    7/27/2012 5:07 AM
    But the protocol is laid out. "MOVE" not "STOP". like Andy said..it takes care of itself. I think this is all good stuff. I posted because I knew this was sort of an issue with cops generally and it's always struck me as a little fascist and too "we're-police-and-must-not-be-filmed-doing-this-thing-we're-doing even if they're just doing their job and keeping the peace. Police work is a messy job and people naturally get bent out of shape, or otherwise wrongly charged and or hurt. Why WOULDN'T they want that on film. If they're doing their jobs right, it would only bolster their case and also they could avoid mistakenly charging people with crimes when all they were doing was being in public - and/or help them convict. Question is whether they can take pictures and film? Does it cut both ways?
    It kind of reminds me of Romney trying to hide his tax returns. He can't run from the calls for them forever, so heck, just release them and deal with whatever is going to happen, but if he does it, he does it under his own terms instead of how it's going to happen and have it be leaked by someone or something in October, which you know is going to happen.
    Telling quote from George Will: "The cost of not releasing the returns are clear," Will said on ABC's This Week. "Therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them."

    The people that are the most forthcoming have the least to hide, police departments or otherwise. And if they're hiding stuff, then they think there's a problem with it.



  6. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    7/27/2012 7:07 AM
    Steven Kurta said: But the protocol is laid out. "MOVE" not "STOP". like Andy said..it takes care of itself. I think this is all good stuff. I posted because I knew this was sort of an issue with cops generally and it's always struck me as a little fascist and too "we're-police-and-must-not-be-filmed-doing-this-thing-we're-doing even if they're just doing their job and keeping the peace. Police work is a messy job and people naturally get bent out of shape, or otherwise wrongly charged and or hurt. Why WOULDN'T they want that on film. If they're doing their jobs right, it would only bolster their case and also they could avoid mistakenly charging people with crimes when all they were doing was being in public - and/or help them convict. Question is whether they can take pictures and film? Does it cut both ways?
    It kind of reminds me of Romney trying to hide his tax returns. He can't run from the calls for them forever, so heck, just release them and deal with whatever is going to happen, but if he does it, he does it under his own terms instead of how it's going to happen and have it be leaked by someone or something in October, which you know is going to happen.
    Telling quote from George Will: "The cost of not releasing the returns are clear," Will said on ABC's This Week. "Therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them."

    The people that are the most forthcoming have the least to hide, police departments or otherwise. And if they're hiding stuff, then they think there's a problem with it.


    That's right. The ones that would have a problem being filmed are the ones that aren't doing their job correct in the first place. The ones that are, should want to be filmed, for the obvious reasons you stated.



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