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1. Steven Kurta

   

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   12/3/2015 6:12 AM

   There's not a lot of consistently conclusive data on either side of this argument for me yet.
   But if for no other reason, this is the one that makes me give a rip about what I'll support and how I vote.
   
   Like, why wouldn't you? Cost and hassle iron themselves out over time as entrepreneurs figure out better ways forward..

   
   
   
   
2. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   12/3/2015 8:12 AM

   You hit the nail on the head with cost, hassle, and entrepreneurship. There is enough data, corruption, misinformation, and arrogance for me to place my feet firmly in the "denier" camp. The biggest reason, for now, to call out the manmade global warming blowhards is cost and disruption particularly to 3rd world countries. These things will eventually work themselves out as costs for alternative energy declines. But in the meantime the chick littles will declare their ideals as settled and we must acquiesce.
   
   Interestingly, I drove past a solar panel manufacturing plant a couple weeks ago. Didn't see one solar panel powering the plant. Telling...

   
   
   
   
3. Steven Kurta

   

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   12/3/2015 9:12 AM

   I find it funny that some conservatives are opposed to conserving anything when it comes to environmental preservation.
   I think the reality is the only thing they're really opposed to is anything that might have roots in liberalism - even when it's a good idea.
   
   I get why, I just think it's humorous, and maybe lost on them, that they're being liberal in their cavalier behavior toward resources. The question over conservancy (whether good or bad) is decided. It's good!
   
   
   Unless it involves the environment because liberals!
   heh.

   
   
   
   
4. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   12/3/2015 9:12 AM

   Of course conservation is good. But that's not the debate. The debate is at what cost and does it make a meaningful difference?

   
   
   
   
5. Steven Kurta

   

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   12/3/2015 9:12 AM

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Of course conservation is good. But that's not the debate. The debate is at what cost and does it make a meaningful difference?

   
   
   
   Saw a good quote from Tom Waits this morning RE: information versus knowledge, and wealth vs happiness.
   
   
   [quote"> "We are buried beneath the weight of information, which is being confused with knowledge; quantity is being confused with abundance and wealth with happiness.
   We are monkeys with money and guns."
   
   
   Sums it up for me.

   
   
   
   
6. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   12/3/2015 11:12 AM

   Steven Kurta said:

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Of course conservation is good. But that's not the debate. The debate is at what cost and does it make a meaningful difference?

   
   
   
   Saw a good quote from Tom Waits this morning RE: information versus knowledge, and wealth vs happiness.
   
   
   [quote"> "We are buried beneath the weight of information, which is being confused with knowledge; quantity is being confused with abundance and wealth with happiness.
   We are monkeys with money and guns."
   

   
   
   Sums it up for me.
   
   I like that quote.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO