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1. Kyle Fick

   

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   8/13/2012 12:08 PM

   I know this thread has been discussed in seasons past, I've written notes down, but have misplaced them it seems. Without this product being labeled for greens, I've got a question before applying:
   
   Are you all still using the 6 oz/acre rate on greens (.138 oz/m), or are you backing off a little due to the lower hieght of cut and reduced leaf tissue present?
   
   Planning on using the spray hawk, doing a perimeter around the collar and green, and then spraying like I normally would to fill the oval. Should I be worried about any overlapping and the rates actually doubling on what would be the cleanup lap of the green?
   
   Calibrated and ready to go, just hesitant yet I guess.

   
   
   
   
2. Justin VanLanduit

   

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   8/13/2012 1:08 PM

   Kyle,
   
   I've done trials on my putting green and chipping green. I backed down to 1oz/acre and shortened the interval to 2 week applications. Did this last fall to just play around and see what the effects were. Definitely yellowed/white the Poa, but also a nice tinge to the bent, this was on A4. Originally I thought the same about doing a cleanup and then filling in, but know of a bad situation where this was done with Xonerate, the overlap stressed the bent bad. And Xonerate wasn't supposed to be as harmful on bent, this was also at 1oz/Acre. The cleanup pass probably has more stressed turf than the center of the green so the bent could be more susceptible and produce a negative response. Have heard too many horror stories lately regarding some of these products so I have stopped. Looks like our putting green may be getting rebuilt here next year so if that's the case I'm going to continue to play this fall with both products and see the differences. Be very cautious though, temperature and moisture levels I believe play a great part in the products activity and how it may affect your bent.
   
   Good Luck,
   Justin

   
   
   
   
3. Andrew Cross

   

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   8/13/2012 1:08 PM

   At a previous course I was at we sprayed it at 1oz/A on our putting green with great results through our normal sprayer and it didn't ding the bluegrass surrounds. We sprayhawked the rest of the greens with a 2oz/A rate and if allowed to get on the bluegrass you'd notice it a few days later but it would grow out. I'd recommend starting out at the 1oz rate.

   
   
   
   
4. Callum Haughn

   

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   8/13/2012 2:08 PM

   We have sprayed our greens the last 2 seasons with Velocity but this year we had to take away the "clean-up" lap as we ended up with bare ground in these areas. Our first trip out we just tried turning off the spray hawks as quickly as possible once we hit the dwarf bluegrass intermediate rough but we have now switched to shutting off before it even reaches there as it dinged them up pretty good. We are using a rate slightly higher than the lowest label rate, .42g/1000, and not seeing any negative effect on the bentgrass.
   
   Callum Haughn
   Mill Ridge Golf Course
   Chester, NS

   
   
   
   
5. Ronald Conard

   

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   8/13/2012 5:08 PM

   Are you willing to assume all risks, agronomically and legally, should something go wrong with a product that not is being used in accordance with the label? Serious question.

   
   
   
   
6. Kyle Fick

   

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   8/14/2012 1:08 PM

   I've decided to not go forth with this experiment based on many factors. If I had a place to do some trials, I think I would, but without that area to experiment, I don't feel comfortable jeapordizing any single surface in an attempt to find a solution or not.