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Tree root cutting

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  1. Kim Brock
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    9/29/2012 11:09 PM
    Any suggestions on which tool/machine is best to cut tree roots along cart paths? I know there will be clean up but which is less messy. Thanks !! Kim



  2. Virgil Range
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    9/30/2012 3:09 AM
    Im also needing some info on Tree root cutting. I have 3 greens that the drip line is over the green. Those 3 greens have dried out and almost dead every year due to the tree roots.
    Anyone one with ideas to prune the roots to help the greens for next year?

    I have heard to make atleast a 4 foot trench and then put roofing paper with the tar side to the tree. Once the roots hit the tar paper it stops growing in that direction. Is this true?

    Virgil



  3. Gregory Jack
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    9/30/2012 5:09 AM
    We have been doing some root pruning with a self-propelled walk behind trencher. It is very physical and can be very dangerous especial you have never run a trencher. We have had success with the trencher even on bigger pine tree roots. It takes a lot of patience, but it will slowly cut them. I have even started taking an ax to give the guys a brake with the trencher, and it helps the trencher cut thru the bigger pine tree roots. We also install bio barrier to stop the roots. We were only trenching between a foot to two feet deep to cut just the top feeder roots. If you have any questions, feel free to call me at 239-272-2318.



  4. Andy Jorgensen
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    9/30/2012 6:09 AM
    Dr. Ed Gilman at the University of Florida has done all kinds of studies on different types of barriers to stop root encroachment. Anything and everything from the urban legends like tar paper, to those on the market commercially to even concrete walls. What he found was that 1)cutting the root makes it branch out and grow more, and 2) no matter what you do, the root will eventually go through, under, over or around the barrier. Best thing to do is to remove the tree. Second best thing you can do is get on a frequent pruning program.

    The machine that I have seen that works the best and has virtually no cleanup, with the exception of packing back down the mound, is a vibratory plow. They'll slice through the roots without expelling any dirt. All that is left behind is a high spot where the trench ran which can be smoothed back down very easily by driving a tractor tire over it.



  5. McCallum David K
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    10/1/2012 6:10 AM
    The best machine in my opinion at pruning roots is a cable puller. The type used by cable companies to pull in large cable bundles. Less mess than a trencher and faster. No need for barriers etc to be placed in the hole. Run the puller, and then go behind with a tractor or some piece of equipment with a good size tire and you can almost close up the slit completely, especially if done with the proper soild mositure. Be prepared to use a couple of blades depending on the amout of pruning you have to do. Works great.



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    10/1/2012 7:10 AM
    Andy Jorgensen said: Dr. Ed Gilman at the University of Florida has done all kinds of studies on different types of barriers to stop root encroachment. Anything and everything from the urban legends like tar paper, to those on the market commercially to even concrete walls. What he found was that 1)cutting the root makes it branch out and grow more, and 2) no matter what you do, the root will eventually go through, under, over or around the barrier. Best thing to do is to remove the tree. Second best thing you can do is get on a frequent pruning program.

    The machine that I have seen that works the best and has virtually no cleanup, with the exception of packing back down the mound, is a vibratory plow. They'll slice through the roots without expelling any dirt. All that is left behind is a high spot where the trench ran which can be smoothed back down very easily by driving a tractor tire over it.


    Andy, Just wondering when you mean pruning program are you talking about root pruning? Wasn't sure if tree pruning would be a help as well.

    Thanks,
    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  7. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    10/1/2012 8:10 AM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Andy Jorgensen said: Dr. Ed Gilman at the University of Florida has done all kinds of studies on different types of barriers to stop root encroachment. Anything and everything from the urban legends like tar paper, to those on the market commercially to even concrete walls. What he found was that 1)cutting the root makes it branch out and grow more, and 2) no matter what you do, the root will eventually go through, under, over or around the barrier. Best thing to do is to remove the tree. Second best thing you can do is get on a frequent pruning program.

    The machine that I have seen that works the best and has virtually no cleanup, with the exception of packing back down the mound, is a vibratory plow. They'll slice through the roots without expelling any dirt. All that is left behind is a high spot where the trench ran which can be smoothed back down very easily by driving a tractor tire over it.


    Andy, Just wondering when you mean pruning program are you talking about root pruning? Wasn't sure if tree pruning would be a help as well.

    Thanks,
    Mel


    I meant a root pruning program. Which means on a frequent basis. Not one and done. However, Dr. Gilman also recommends canopy pruning as well, but not sure how feasible that would be on a regular basis with large trees.

    I was fortunate to attend the Great Southern tree Conference a few years back in which root pruning was discussed heavily. We also saw the results of the lengthy study that has taken place over the past several years in regards to the different barriers. Yes, some worked better than others. But, in the end, as I mentioned, the roots eventually go under, over or around the barrier. It was cool seeing the excavated sites and how the roots interacted with the barriers. Definitely taught me something.



  8. Brett Morris
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    10/1/2012 8:10 PM
    Do a search for the Imants Root pruner. All it leaves are two narrow slits in the turf and does a great job. They displayed at GIS Las Vegas this year as well.

    Brett.



  9. Rodney Crow
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    10/3/2012 6:10 AM
    I did a demo of the Imants Root Pruner back when I was in South Carolina and i must say it did an amazing job. We had very rocky/clayey soils and the machine cut thru everything like it was butter. The only mess that was left was the occasional large piece of root that the machine would kick up out of the ground. Other than that, it just needed a good rolling and voila! I did have a bit of yellowing right down the slit lines where the machine went (419 bermuda) but the grass grew back out of it in about a week.



  10. McCallum David K
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    10/3/2012 8:10 AM
    Basically a modified cable puller........find an independent contractor like we did and borrow/ rent the unit during the winter months and have fun. Again little or no mess from the machine.



  11. Samuel Wood
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    1 posts
    10/3/2012 9:10 AM
    Is there some sort of standard that can be used to know how close you can root prune to certain trees without damage. I know every tree is different but just a guideline as to distance away from trunk per inch trunk diameter? Would it be better to go shallow the first year and cut just surface roots and then deeper later. Mainly interested in Pine and oak trees in NC

    Thanks
    Sam Wood
    Zebulon Country Club



  12. James Geiger
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    1 posts
    10/3/2012 10:10 AM
    http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/root-pru ... ines.shtml
    found this but even they have opposing opinions



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