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1. Douglas Davis

   

   6 posts
   
   12/27/2012 7:12 AM

   Hello--
   
   My boss is so against pulling a core on a putting surface he spoke with a few others in the industry and wants me to go the route of the Hydroject. I used one a long time ago but not at all lately just curious if anyone out there uses them as part of their "reguler" maintenance activities and if so how---Thank you-

   
   
   
   
2. Keith Lamb

   

   3 posts
   
   12/27/2012 8:12 AM

   In my experience the hydrojet is a tool to compliment core aeration, NOT a replacement. Who was he talking to? Other GM's? He is wanting to make a decision that will affect your job performance perception, not his. If he is not going to budge get him to write up a document stating that removing core aeration was HIS decision, not yours, and it was done against your recommendations. You could request a USGA visit to address this. You can seek out other turf professionals to consult on this. Have ISTRC do testing http://www.istrc.com/
   
   Good luck.

   
   
   
   
3. James Schmid

   

   1 posts
   
   12/27/2012 8:12 AM

   As far as I know they don't make the hydroject anymore. Must not be that awesome afterall.

   
   
   
   
4. James Moore_2

   

   1 posts
   
   12/27/2012 8:12 AM

   How are you going to deal with the organic build up in the soil. If you don,t remove a certain amount and replace with clean sand??

   
   
   
   
5. Sandy Clark

   

   0 posts
   
   12/27/2012 9:12 AM

   Toro quit making the Hydroject because Supts. were using different methods and more modern equipment. I hope to replace my current aerifiers this year but in the meantime, we will use our Hydroject to supplement our process. The Hydroject sort of ran its course. The new equipment allows for flexibility that made it obsolete. I hope I will have one to sell later this year but I don't know if I will have any takers. The guys are correct. Your GM needs to understand that you cannot manage bent effectively without removing organic matter. you will eventually seal up so tight that water will just run off and your putting quality will be greatly diminished. Get the tests mentioned and absolutely get your USGA rep in for a visit. If he still persists, have him document and sign that it his decision. If he answers to a Board of Directors, they should be fully aware of what he is asking of you.

   
   
   
   
6. Jackson Reiswig

   

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   12/27/2012 10:12 AM

   Had a Hydroject for years. Used it half a dozen times, maybe. Core core core, but if you're up against a wall get a planet aire in there and show him what you can do with those knives without interrupting play.

   
   
   
   
7. Rosenthal Gregg

   
   12/27/2012 6:12 PM

   Aerification, verticutting are irreplaceable methodology for removing thatch and maintaining good playability of bent grass or any greens! Sand based, soil based does not matter at all! Hydroject or solid tine aerification are just tools to help get through tough times between annual core removal and verticutting! Unless greens are brand new I have never wanted to skip a good aerification, and even new greens this stimulates growth sometimes.
   
   GreggR

   
   
   
   
8. Keith Fellenstein

   

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   1/2/2013 10:01 AM

   Pull a core twice a year (spring and fall) alternate hydrojecting with needle tines as much as every week in between (summer) and deep tine with verti-drain late fall/early spring. Hydroject is a great tool to keep the profile open and breathing but like others said, won't address thatch build-up wonderful tool except it is slow. luckily, I have two and can finish 18 holes in 8 hours on the second setting.

   
   
   
   
9. Corey Eastwood

   

   80 posts
   
   1/2/2013 11:01 AM

   Jackson Reiswig said: Had a Hydroject for years. Used it half a dozen times, maybe. Core core core, but if you're up against a wall get a planet aire in there and show him what you can do with those knives without interrupting play.

   
   
   Ditto on the PlanetAir. Use it every two to three weeks and leave the core aerator for other projects.

   
   Corey Eastwood CGCS, Stockton Golf & CC, Retired
   
   
10. Waller Richard E

    
    1/2/2013 1:01 PM

    I would suggest you check out the SSB product at www.BiologicalTechSolutions.com

    
    
    
    
11. Ashton Alan W

    
    1/3/2013 7:01 AM

    Richard E Waller said: I would suggest you check out the SSB product at http://www.BiologicalTechSolutions.com

    
    
    I would suggest something too, but then I'd break one of my resolutions...

    
    
    
    
12. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    1/3/2013 9:01 AM

    Richard E Waller said: I would suggest you check out the SSB product at http://www.BiologicalTechSolutions.com

    
    
    Did you used to sell gypsum?

    
    
    
    
13. Gary Carls

    

    19 posts
    
    1/3/2013 10:01 AM

    We used to do three core aerations per year on our greens that used to get as many as 80-85,000 rounds per year. When the pressure came to reduce the impacts created by the aerations we starting using the Planet-Air on a monthly basis through the summer and went two regular aerations per year, spring and fall. Our schedule right now is like this. April (Planet-Air), May (core aeration), June, July and August (Planet-Air), September (core aeration). Would never eliminate the core aerations from our program for the reasons mentioned above. We don't own the Planet-Air so we contract that service each year. In general, I would say our greens have never been better throughout the entire season than when we started this program 6-7 years ago.

    
    Gary K. Carls, CGCS, President - Oakland Turfgrass Education Initiative