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  1. Rodney Crow
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    7/30/2014 11:07 AM
    I am currently putting together a project cost for rebuilding some par-3 tee boxes. While doing the project, I would like to enlarge the tee boxes as well. I have done extensive research, but I cant find any specific information regarding average yardages for par-3 tees. If my scorecard says 179 yards from the back men's tee, what should the yardage range be? For example, if it's 179 yards from the center of the tee to the center of the green, should the tee be, say, 10 yards forward and back of center? 15 yards forward and back of center?



  2. Keith Pegg
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    7/30/2014 3:07 PM
    Rodney,

    Most people measure for middle but some measure from 2 paces from back edge of each tee area, I think it should always be middle with maybe the exception of the champion tee and that set at 2 paces from back, I guess that is okay makes the score card look a bit longer from (black) even if it is a cheat. Tees and pin balance is important.

    Keith
    Zama GC



  3. Rodney Crow
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    7/30/2014 3:07 PM
    That's not what I mean. In building a new tee box, I'm trying to figure out how long my tee box should be to be within industry standards. USGA says a par 3 tee should be about 200 SF for every 1000 rounds you do per year, but says nothing about average yardage ranges for a given set of tees. So I have a tee that on the scorecard measures 179 yards (middle of tee to middle of green). Should the tee be based on the depth of the green to determine it's total length? Is there an average length of a par 3 tee? These are the questions I have.



  4. Clay Putnam
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    7/30/2014 4:07 PM
    Rodney Crow said: That's not what I mean. In building a new tee box, I'm trying to figure out how long my tee box should be to be within industry standards. USGA says a par 3 tee should be about 200 SF for every 1000 rounds you do per year, but says nothing about average yardage ranges for a given set of tees. So I have a tee that on the scorecard measures 179 yards (middle of tee to middle of green). Should the tee be based on the depth of the green to determine it's total length? Is there an average length of a par 3 tee? These are the questions I have.


    Rodney,

    I am unaware of a standard tee depth as it relates to the position of the yardage plate nor can I think of a reason to have a standard. The length of the tee in front of and behind the yardage plate is purely to your discretion making certain that there is ample area for the number of rounds played. The tee is your canvass, let your imagination run wild.



  5. Darrin Baker
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    7/31/2014 8:07 AM
    The only advice I would add is to be sure the hole can play to the posted yardage even if the hole location is as close to the front of the green as possible. This is important for events with hole in one insurance that requires the hole play to the posted yardage if there happens to be a front pin.



  6. Kenneth Ingram
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    8/4/2014 11:08 AM
    Not sure if this helps. Happened to stumble across it in the USGA Course Rating Book. Kenneth Ingram, UMD

    Section 12 MEASUREMENTS

    Definitions

    Within each section, all defined terms are in italics and are listed alphabetically in Section 2 - Definitions.

    12-1. Starting Point: Permanent Markers

    Accurate permanent marker placement is imperative in the rating process. Permanent markers are to reflect an average placement of the movable tee markers over time. Incorrectly placed markers will make it difficult for the golf course staff to set up the course each day, keeping the effective course difficulty constant and in line with the ratings issued.

    Permanent marker placement is more likely to have a greater impact on ratings than green speed, height of rough and other course maintenance practices. Courses and clubs should pay special attention to this issue and are encouraged to consult the authorized golf associations in the area for assistance in determining accurate placement.

    When a single tee pad is designated for one set of tees, placement of the permanent marker at a point opposite the middle of the teeing area is appropriate. This maximizes the ability of the golf course to use the entire teeing area and gives the best chance of reflecting an average of movable marker placement over time.

    When more than one set of tees uses a single tee pad, consider the percentage of a club's existing or anticipated play from each set of tees when determining permanent marker placement. Allocate the percentage of play to the teeing area and place each permanent marker at a point opposite the mid-point of each of the allocated areas. As an example, a forty-yard teeing area is to be shared by three sets of tees. The club determines that 25% of play will be from the forward tees, 50% from the middle tees, and 25% from the back tees. Allocation would then have the first 10 yards of the teeing area dedicated to the forward tees, the middle 20 yards to the middle tees and the final 10 yards to the back tee. The permanent marker placement would be at the mid-point of each of these three areas.



  7. Melvin Waldron
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    8/4/2014 12:08 PM
    Kenneth Ingram, CGCS said: Not sure if this helps. Happened to stumble across it in the USGA Course Rating Book. Kenneth Ingram, UMD

    Section 12 MEASUREMENTS

    Definitions

    Within each section, all defined terms are in italics and are listed alphabetically in Section 2 - Definitions.

    12-1. Starting Point: Permanent Markers

    Accurate permanent marker placement is imperative in the rating process. Permanent markers are to reflect an average placement of the movable tee markers over time. Incorrectly placed markers will make it difficult for the golf course staff to set up the course each day, keeping the effective course difficulty constant and in line with the ratings issued.

    Permanent marker placement is more likely to have a greater impact on ratings than green speed, height of rough and other course maintenance practices. Courses and clubs should pay special attention to this issue and are encouraged to consult the authorized golf associations in the area for assistance in determining accurate placement.

    When a single tee pad is designated for one set of tees, placement of the permanent marker at a point opposite the middle of the teeing area is appropriate. This maximizes the ability of the golf course to use the entire teeing area and gives the best chance of reflecting an average of movable marker placement over time.

    When more than one set of tees uses a single tee pad, consider the percentage of a club's existing or anticipated play from each set of tees when determining permanent marker placement. Allocate the percentage of play to the teeing area and place each permanent marker at a point opposite the mid-point of each of the allocated areas. As an example, a forty-yard teeing area is to be shared by three sets of tees. The club determines that 25% of play will be from the forward tees, 50% from the middle tees, and 25% from the back tees. Allocation would then have the first 10 yards of the teeing area dedicated to the forward tees, the middle 20 yards to the middle tees and the final 10 yards to the back tee. The permanent marker placement would be at the mid-point of each of these three areas.


    Nice work, of course the pro shop will still measure the back tee not from that mid point, but from the very back in order to get the longest yardage possible, don't know why they insist on that though.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  8. Zemlo James M
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    8/7/2014 6:08 AM
    Having bui;t courses and managed also, u can never build a par 4 tee too large.



  9. Zemlo James M
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    8/7/2014 6:08 AM
    Par 3 that is



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