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1. Nicholas Johnson

   

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   7/27/2011 11:07 AM

   I have been looking at these two brushes used for backfilling aerification holes, dragging in topdressing sand and grooming.
   
   They basically look like the same machine and was wondering if anyone who has experience with either one could offer any feedback.
   
   Thank you,

   
   
   
   
2. Sam Welch

   

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   7/28/2011 8:07 PM

   I'm not familiar with the Turfbrush but I had a Sweep n fill demo last summer. I thought it was way too aggressive for bentgrass. You had to start in the middle and make circles to push the material outward as you went and it was just too much.
   
   On the other hand if I had bermuda greens I think I'd be all over it. It definitely works. I even think you might like it on tees or approaches for a verticutting-type operation.

   
   
   
   
3. Steven Huffstutler

   

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   7/28/2011 9:07 PM

   I have Bermuda greens and I demoed one a couple of months ago. Way too aggressive and basically an answer to a question that no one is asking.
   
   Regards,
   
   Steve

   
   
   
   
4. Andrew Cross

   

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   7/29/2011 3:07 PM

   I have one. I use it to groom Poa/Bent greens but rarely use it to brush in sand. I find i can get a better result with any operator on a typical pull behind brush. When I've topdressed really heavy in the past i will use the sweep n fill to fill the holes then the old standard to clean up the surface. Just how I use it, who knows maybe I'll incorporate it more in the future.

   
   
   
   
5. Jeffrey Scott

   

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   8/1/2011 11:08 PM

   Anyone who claims that the TB 200 grooming brush is too aggressive must certainly have been operating it out of adjustment!! There is a simple procedure to level the unit before you use it. The brush must be in the brushing (lowered) position to level it so that both brushes are in equal contact with the turf. The height of the hitch of the pulling vehicle has a direct bearing on the leveling procedure. The ClubCar hitch is about 8 inches off the ground and will require no adjustment in the hitch plate on the TB 200 as it comes from the factory. If the hitch height is 10 or 11 inches off the ground, you will have to adjust the hitch accordingly.
   I have done hundreds of demos of both brushes and currently manufacture the TB 200. I have been on bent greens so new that they have not even opened for play when temps are in the mid to upper 80's; on predominantly Poa greens when the temps have been in the 90's for a GENTLE grooming to stand up the grain and have NEVER stressed the turf. And, Andrew, you have a TB 200, not a SNF !! Take a look at them side-by-side...there is a big difference in the design and construction of the unit and about $150 higher price.

   
   
   
   
6. Ronald Conard

   

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   8/2/2011 10:08 AM

   Are you selling the TB 200 Jef?

   
   
   
   
7. Larry Allan

   

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   8/2/2011 11:08 AM

   I think he is but I was going to respond sort of the way he did. We had a demo right after aerating.At first I thought the machine blew chunks. After a few greens I was ready to throw in the towel so I had my wrench come out with the manual and adjusted it. The thing worked like a dream and filled all the holes. It really wasn't all that aggressive. I think once you get the machine set up properly it is ideal for everything from filling holes to just a light brushing before mowing.
   I was very impressed.
   Don't listen to the guy in Florida.

   
   
   
   
8. Heath Puckett

   

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   8/2/2011 11:08 AM

   We've had a sweep n fill for about 5 years and love it....mainly used on our bent greens (Dominant/Penncross) 10 months out of the year to cleanup small cores, behind verticutters, work in topdressing, and ahead of mowers in the morning. We also use on our bermuda tees with great results. We were originally looking at the Greensgroomer or TIP brushes until a vendor brought this unit by...I was immediately sold. As Jeff stated, you can adjust the aggressiveness of the brush, however I've seen no need to change ours from the highest (least aggressive) setting. The only problems we've had are the wheel bearings going out. Not sure about the newer models, but ours has an open gear and chain which attracts alot of sand. All in all....highly recommended!

   
   
   
   
9. Keith Lamb

   

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   8/2/2011 12:08 PM

   conard said: Are you selling the TB 200 Jef?

   
   
   
   Jeff Scott is the President of Du Cor International out of Orlando and I believe he is the local distributor for that product.

   
   
   
   
10. Jeffrey Scott

    

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    8/2/2011 5:08 PM

    That is a different Jeff Scott...I met him at the GIS in Orlando in '08 when I was repping the SNF in the upper midwest. They hoped to have him distributing the SNF in FL, but never finalized the deal. I was a supt in IL for nearly 30 years - joined up with my consultant in '04 and helped expand his business. I met the creator of the SNF in Anaheim in '07 and I sold about 60 SNF's in the couple years that I repped them. My partners and I formed SGM Industries in '09 when we saw a need to upgrade the SNF. We produced 3 proto upgrades of the SNF and began marketing our TB 200 in '09. We pay the creator of the SNF a royalty so we can use his patent number on the TB 200. The SNF 2 that he markets now is an "almost" copy of our first proto, but as many supts and our distributors around the country/world are finding, the TB 200 is certainly worth the extra $$$ because of it's improved design and quality.
    I have demoed these machines all over the country on all kinds of turf - even plastic grass! - and I have yet to find a machine that can match these capabilities. It's still a thrill to show it to someone for the first time - the key to success is to do a good demo to show it's versatility, but really, the machine sells itself. And in summertime heat when greens start getting puffy, slow and bumpy, a gentle grooming to lift the canopy then mow to remove some of that "silage" that creates such problems is all that is needed to maintain smoother, healthier putting surfaces, lower canopy temps and make the supts job a little less stressful.
    These web sites have been posted several times here before... www.sgmindustries.com or www.turfbrush.com to see the videos or find a distributor.
    
    Jeff Scott, CGCS
    Midwest Turf Specialties, LLC