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1. Josh Petersen

   

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   7/7/2011 7:07 PM

   I've recently been looking into buying a new sprayer, probably about a 175 gallon-200 gallon tank. The only machine i've demo so far is the new Smithco 2000 with the Raven 440 control system. Ive never used a Raven before, but it seems like it would be worth the extra money. Anybody have any advice for me about the Raven or what the best sprayer is out there? Toro's best machine?
   Thanks in advance for the help!
   Josh
   Cedar Falls, IA

   
   
   
   
2. Andy Jorgensen

   

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   7/8/2011 7:07 AM

   We run the Toro MultiPro 1250's here and a Toro Workman 200-gallon sprayer. The 1250's run fine, 165 gallon tank, but seem to have alot of issues down the road. Ours are 4 and 6 years old and we've replaced the pump a few times, pressure dampeners, valve kits, pressure regulators, etc....The Workman is basically the same system, but bigger. I don't like the diaphragm pumps on the Toros.
   
   I was never a big Deere fan, but got to see a Deere 200 gallon sprayer a few months ago. This thing is a beast. Very heavy duty, centrifugal pump and many options to go with it. My next large area sprayer will probably be green.
   
   The Raven is nice until it breaks. Last time ours went out it was a ton of money to replace. The Toro's have a data recorder basically that is similar to a Raven. Same thing though when it breaks. You can't rebuild, just have to replace the whole unit for about $800. Manual calibration works just fine in my opinion.

   
   
   
   
3. Keith Lamb

   

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   7/8/2011 8:07 AM

   On my second JD Progator 2030 Diesel w/ the HD200 sprayer. Andy is correct....a beast. Built like a tank with a centrifugal pump with any options you want. Know of a couple guys in the area that have converted over from the Toro and are very happy. The great thing is when we buy a new one we put a bed back on the old one and have a great heavy duty utility vehicle.

   
   
   
   
4. Josh Petersen

   

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   7/8/2011 9:07 AM

   I currently run a MultiPro 1250 that is 7 years old, not going that route again. The only sprayer I would consider at this point from Toro is the 5800 that has a totally redesigned pump system with excellent agitation- anybody have one? I also heard they were coming out with another sprayer like the 5800, but more comparable in size to the MultiPro 1250...

   
   
   
   
5. Larry Allan

   

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   7/8/2011 9:07 AM

   I know you guys don't like Jakes but The DS300 is awesome. Never had a problem and the stainless steel centrifugal pump is unbeatable. I can dump solubles in out of the bag and it doesn't miss a beat

   
   
   
   
6. Wise John H

   
   7/8/2011 9:07 AM

   Our cushman DS 175 is very trouble free, we love it.
   
   John Wise
   Oakbourne CC
   Lafayette, La

   
   
   
   
7. Kinney Brian

   
   7/8/2011 1:07 PM

   I just got a new multipro 1250 today on a workman with a 200 gallon tank. Had one for 4 years and the only thing that went out was flow meter, no problem for $700....or just claibrate old school and away we went. i like having mulitple nozzles available at the twist of the hand for switching rates daily since i only have one rig.

   
   
   
   
8. Chuck Barber

   

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   7/8/2011 4:07 PM

   Very happy with Smithco 3180 aside from the single seat and the bouncy boom frame. I think they fixed that on the newer version.

   
   
   
   
9. Dennis Cook

   

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   7/11/2011 7:07 AM

   Im on my 12th season with our Smithco. It has a Raven 440 on it and so far it has been trouble free. Occasionally i have to fix a pinched foamer line, but all the components on it are top notch. The on/off valves are ball valves controlled by a little motor and they never act up. Our previous toro multipro had all kinds of issues with the solenoid activated snap on/off valves. They always stick or drip. No problems with the Raven at all. I wish the Smithco had a training seat on it

   
   
   
   
10. Baker Daniel

    
    7/12/2011 2:07 PM

    jpete3 said: I currently run a MultiPro 1250 that is 7 years old, not going that route again. The only sprayer I would consider at this point from Toro is the 5800 that has a totally redesigned pump system with excellent agitation- anybody have one? I also heard they were coming out with another sprayer like the 5800, but more comparable in size to the MultiPro 1250...

    
    
    I'm with you there. The Toro 5800 is nice, but carries a hefty price tag. I have used JD HD 200's for the last six years after coming over from Toro equipment. I love my HD200 and would recommend it to anyone for just about any purpose.

    
    
    
    
11. James Prusa

    

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    7/22/2011 10:07 PM

    All:
    
    I am researching for an article I will be publishing in the September 2011 issue of Asian Golf Business magazine. http://www.asiapacificgolfgroup.com/asi ... -business/
    The article will be on the archaic practice in Asia of spraying greens using hand-held wands versus using modern spray boom equipment that readily available throughouit the region.
    
    Would like to (1) get good comments and quotes regarding accuracy on greens from those managing modern, high-end facilities in North America and elsewhere (with your photo); (2) wish to locate at least one or two comparative studies from universities on the comparative accuracy of these two methods; and (3) trying to locate any trade or professional articles already written on the subject.
    
    If anyone can help me wth these items I would be indebted.
    
    Thank you,
    
    Jim Prusa
    jgp@alumni-gsb.stanford.edu

    
    
    
    
12. James Prusa

    

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    7/22/2011 10:07 PM

    All:
    
    I am researching for an article I will be publishing in the September 2011 issue of Asian Golf Business magazine. http://www.asiapacificgolfgroup.com/asi ... -business/
    The article will be on the archaic practice in Asia of spraying greens using hand-held wands versus using modern spray boom equipment that readily available throughouit the region.
    
    Would like to (1) get good comments and quotes regarding accuracy on greens from those managing modern, high-end facilities in North America and elsewhere (with your photo); (2) wish to locate at least one or two comparative studies from universities on the comparative accuracy of these two methods; and (3) trying to locate any trade or professional articles already written on the subject.
    
    If anyone can help me wth these items I would be indebted.
    
    Thank you,
    
    Jim Prusa
    jgp@alumni-gsb.stanford.edu

    
    
    
    
13. James Prusa

    

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    7/22/2011 10:07 PM

    All:
    
    I am researching for an article I will be publishing in the September 2011 issue of Asian Golf Business magazine. http://www.asiapacificgolfgroup.com/asi ... -business/
    The article will be on the archaic practice in Asia of spraying greens using hand-held wands versus using modern spray boom equipment that readily available throughouit the region.
    
    Would like to (1) get good comments and quotes regarding accuracy on greens from those managing modern, high-end facilities in North America and elsewhere (with your photo); (2) wish to locate at least one or two comparative studies from universities on the comparative accuracy of these two methods; and (3) trying to locate any trade or professional articles already written on the subject.
    
    If anyone can help me wth these items I would be indebted.
    
    Thank you,
    
    Jim Prusa
    jgp@alumni-gsb.stanford.edu

    
    
    
    
14. Trevor Richardson

    

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    3/15/2014 9:03 PM

    John Deere gas pro gator sprayer vs toro 1750 greens sprayer. What are the pros and cons of each?

    
    
    
    
15. Canedo Alberto J

    
    3/16/2014 9:03 AM

    6 years ago I looked at the sprayers from Smithco, Toro and a company called PBM Supply & Mfg Inc. Ended up going with a custom built sprayer from PMB due to what I wanted on the sprayer and the cost. It was over 10K cheaper than Toro's basic sprayer. I have over 500 hours and only have had to rebuild the centrifuge pump 3 times, due to the products I use. It has been a very solid unit and enjoy the Raven System. Every year PBM comes over to do a calibration test on the unit for free. You don't get that from the big 3 companies. If I have problems or questions, they will come out to check the unit out, if we can not figure it out over the phone. Never have been charged for them to come out and look at the unit after the warranty has expired.

    
    
    
    
16. Andy Jorgensen

    

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    3/16/2014 3:03 PM

    Switched from the Toro MP1750 to the Pro Gator a few years back. The Deere was about $5k cheaper. I personally like the centrifugal pump over the diaphragm pump. Just always seemed to have issues with the diaphragms with so many moving parts. The Deere is also faster and has cut our spraying down by about 30 minutes. The first Deere sprayer we bought is about 2.5 years old now and we haven't had the first issue.

    
    
    
    
17. Keith Fellenstein

    

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    3/17/2014 9:03 AM

    I've used every brand and am very pleased with the JD sprayers we have now. They are rugged, dependable, and effective. We have two 200's and two 300's that just came off a five year lease. Minor work to get them like new and they should last us another five years or more. My mechanic calls them bullet proof. I prefer the centrifugal to diaphragm pumps. The only glitch is the pressure gauge, but once you get that worked out, can't beat them. I did see a demo with the new Smithco. That is the only sprayer I would consider over the Deere.

    
    
    
    
18. John Hansgen

    

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    1/14/2015 8:01 AM

    Looking to purchase a sprayer. Which brand do you like and why?

    
    
    
    
19. Adam Stottlemyer

    

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    1/14/2015 12:01 PM

    I have used Jacobson, Toro, and Deere, and the one I've liked the best and limited issues with is the Toro 5800. The pro control is easy and nice to use. Only real problem we had was we had to get the next size up screen, as the one we got with it had too fine of holes and lost pressure if we used any powders in it. I had actuators go out a few times in the Jacobson i use to use, but never had any problems with the Toro.
    
    The clean load attachment is nice, as you can mix wettables with water in tank rather then trying to rinse them through screen, as well as liquids and fertilizer. The last one we got, we also got the 30 gallon rinse tank accessory which is also quite nice, as it saves me from running back in to fill tank with water, and can clean it out as you drive back in.

    
    
    
    
20. Henry Heinz

    

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    1/15/2015 7:01 AM

    I'll second the Toro 5800. We have two of them that have been heavily used well over a year with no issues. We will be picking up one more 5800, and one 1750 this year.
    
    Regards,

    
    
    
    
21. Melvin Waldron

    

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    1/15/2015 9:01 AM

    We have a Toro 1250 that has been pretty reliable for the past 10+ years.
    
    My favorite sprayer I ever had was a Toro 5300? It was the 300 gallon sprayer with the Ford industrial engine, bought it for a golf course I was at in 1998.
    
    Mel

    
    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
    
    
22. Larry Allan

    

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    1/15/2015 10:01 AM

    I've never had a Toro sprayer but I do have a Jake DS300 and as far as I'm concerned the thing is bullet proof. I prefer the centrifugal pump. Never as issue and i dump in a lot of raw fertilizer without any problems

    
    
    
    
23. Douglas Eggert

    

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    1/15/2015 3:01 PM

    Well... I have a 1995 Smithco 3000S 300 gallon with the Ford Industrial engine. Engine has been pretty good, hydro had a small leak, contacted Eaton, got it fixed. Replaced the standard boom when it died, put on an 21' HD boom from Deere, it's been pretty good. It has a centrifugal pump , 3rd one this last fall, and runs a Spraying Systems 855 Controller, which has been pretty much flawless. Very few operators, but...I'd buy the Toro 5800 for my next one.

    
    
    
    
24. Bobby Jaeger

    

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    1/16/2015 12:01 PM

    The new toro multi pro 1750 is awesome.
    Easy to clean, easy to calibrate. After one season I have zero complaints.
    
    
    Bobby Jaeger
    Superintendent
    Lake Tahoe Golf Course

    
    
    
    
25. Mike Hundley

    

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    6/17/2016 8:06 PM

    For you John Deere guys, will the centrifugal put out much water per acre without having to drive super slow? I am looking at one and that was my only concern. I sometimes put out at a rate of 90 gals/ acre with my toro 1250 at 4.3 mph for some products. Will that be doable with the centrifugal you think?

    
    
    
    
26. Paul Double

    

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    6/18/2016 9:06 AM

    I have a 2002 John Deere HD200 and a 2007 John Deere HD200, would not trade them for anything. They have been rock solid. Like Keith said, the only glitch is getting the pressure gauge bled right to show proper pressure, but once that done it is great machine. As far as getting 90 gals/A, you could get with Deere in second gear at 4.3 mph at 50 psi with TeeJet XR11015 nozzles which according to the chart would be about 115 gal/A or the TeeJet XR11010 which would be aaround 78 gal/A. Using the HD200 for the past 14 years, I have found that with the centrifugal pump, the best operating pressure for us has been 50 psi. Getting your rate is doable, just need to look at some nozzle charts and base off of 50 psi with second gear at 4.3 mph or first gear at 2.6 mph. Here is the nozzle info from TeeJet.
    http://www.teejet.com/literature_pdfs/c ... ozzles.pdf
    
    Good Luck
    
    Paul L Double
    Sugar Valley Golf Club
    Bellbrook, Ohio

    
    
    
    
27. Jeffrey Scott

    

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    9/20/2016 1:09 PM

    Since 2010, we have upgraded about 25 sprayers - Toro, Deere and Smithco - in the Chicago area with the Capstan SharpShooter system. Two years ago, Capstan introduced the SharpShooter with RateSync (SSRS) as the pulse generator. SSRS will work with the existing rate controller on the sprayer and allow the operator to spray at any speed from 2 to 10 mph; apply from .4 to 4.0 gal per 1000; have on-the-go pressure adjustment to control drift: instant on/off flow at the nozzle - all without changing tips!
    Most of the upgrades have included the EnvisioPro/SwitchPro for WAAS mapping and individual nozzle control. 5 of the sprayers now have the Raven Slingshot modem installed that allows one-time mapping with permanent maps loaded in the system using RTK mapping for sub inch accuracy.
    There will be more new technology to see at the GIS in Orlando. Wilger, Capstan and Turflux are sharing a booth near the main concession seating area. They will again have live systems operating so you can actually see the applications being made.
    
    Jeff Scott, CGCS retired
    President, Midwest Turf Specialties
    V/P SGM Industries,LLC

    
    
    
    
28. Max Lamas

    

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    9/20/2016 8:09 PM

    I'm using a hahn sprayer that was purchased in the late 80s I believe.

    
    
    
    
29. Robert Hall

    

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    9/20/2016 9:09 PM

    Toro has best sprayer with 5700D and 5800D
    models. in my opinion
    
    best of luck
    Yankee Bob

    
    
    
    
30. Roland McPhearson

    

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    9/21/2016 12:09 PM

    Accessibility to engine and pump for maintenance-
    
    JD +
    Toro -