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1. Garrett Schultz

   

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   1/29/2013 4:01 PM

   I'm looking for some ideas as to how you guys indicate pin position on the green and how you indicate yardage to the flag. I currently have the red, white, blue (front, middle, back) colored flag rotation which I am not a fan of. I want to go to just one colored flag for all of the holes, but as a municipal our average golfer prefers to know if the pin is located in the front, middle, back. I'm not big on the little flags or balls that slide up and down the stick. I know pin sheets with a corresponding number for each section of the greens work in a lot of situations, but I don't believe that's possible for me. (If it was up to me there would be no need for yardage indication, just hit your ball and play it as it lies, but I'm a bit of a purist!)
   
   So, does anybody of any unique ways of indicating pin position on the green?

   
   
   
   
2. Zachary Wignall

   

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   1/29/2013 5:01 PM

   We deal with same scenario (red,white,blue flags). Not a fan of as well. Trying to switch to one flag and just letting pro shop know what the rotation will (FMB or MBF, etc). Well see if they can handle that and pass that info on to players. Possibly post as well at #1 and #10 tee.

   
   
   
   
3. Andy Scott

   

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   1/29/2013 6:01 PM

   At my previous course we had a 150 yd PVC (1 1/4") pole painted black, with a white slider (1 1/2")which indicated the pin position. So if the slider is all the way up, pin is back, slider at bottom pin is front. Very simple and everyone understood it. Public course with 46,000 rounds.

   
   
   
   
4. Rosenthal Gregg

   
   1/29/2013 6:01 PM

   Several ways exist, we utilize a device on top of the flagpole that is seen by a eyepiece telling you the distance exactly to the cup! I don't know anyone that good to hit it there but most of our members have it and we must keep it going. I am a good golfer and welcome the distance on the sprinklers and then a cup location sheet or as we did at Kemper Lakes and other places I have been a daily position number on the scorecard with the position picture on the green on the back of the card for each hole. So Monday is day 1 ect ( for example), I would have the green set into 9 locations 3 front, 3 middle, 3 back, then spread out cup placement. I would typically have 6 days set up on card leaving one day open for outings or events which would be set on a separate sheet, kemper lakes we had outings every Monday so they had a daily sheet for each Monday event, Scorecard started with Tuesday - Sunday (1-6). You have 9 spaces on the the green to spread out 6 cup locations or as reality some greens slopes don't allow any cup locations! We Still use three color flags red white blue, so it matters not people think if they know exact location it helps them get it closer, reality is good golfers yes, most maybe! Just getting it on the green is good, for my book in regulation, don't sweat the small stuff! Zachary Love Herndon worked for John Tutich there back in the day as his assistant before building my first golf course!
   
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5. Tyson Helsel

   

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   1/29/2013 7:01 PM

   We utilize a granite pole located at 150yds in the left/right rough, whichever is closest to the cart path. Drilled a hole in the top of the pole and have 3 different colored blocks; red, white, yellow (front, middle, back). Drilled a hole in the block and placed a nail in the bottom center which fits into the pole. We move these each day, and change the color associated where the pin is for that day or rotation. Works pretty good for us. We have 1 flag and the members can tell their 150 yardage as well as a front, middle, back rotation based off of the block color.

   
   
   
   
6. Garrett Schultz

   

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   1/30/2013 8:01 AM

   Thanks for the replies. We have the red(100), white(150), blue(200) yardage poles just off the fairway as well. I am considering placing another pole as some had mentioned next to the 150 yardage marker closest to the cart path and using a slider as an indicator.

   
   
   
   
7. Dale Fender

   

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   1/30/2013 8:01 PM

   Not a fan of "exact" yardage things expected by many golfers today. Would love to settle a bet with them proving to me their yardage accuracy. Them with a 7 iron and me with a tape measure. Ha. Ive found that the small flags on the pin w/rubber grommet works well. Front/ middle/ back(top/ middle/ bottom) We have the ones that read Please Repair Ball Marks. The grommets weather rot pretty quickly but so do the flags. Standard brand flags come w the grommets. I still have plenty of unrepaired ballparks, so don't get your hopes up.

   
   
   
   
8. Paul Double

   

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   1/31/2013 9:01 PM

   We had the same problem a couple years ago. I made a change to our system so we only have one flag, and not the red, white, blue we did before. Now, all greens have the same flag, but we still follow the red (front), white (middle), and blue (back) system. We do this by using color system on score cards. On the score card, above each hole number is a circle broken into thirds with with gold, white, and green, same concept of red, white, and blue. It is still simple for the cup cutters because we still follow the front, middle, back system. Leading to number 1 and 10 tee, we have posts that we hang blocks from that are painted gold, white, and green, and we just hang the specific color for the members to know which color the pin placement is and they can look on their scorecard and it will tell them where the flag is positioned. It has actually been a great system and only had a couple people not care for it when first done. It may sound confusing, but it is actually a simple thing to do. I can send pics of the scorecard if you would like.
   
   Paul L Double
   Director of Turfgrass Management/Golf Course Superintendent
   Sugar Valley Golf Club
   Bellbrook, Ohio
   paul.svcc@woh.rr.com

   
   
   
   
9. John Faber

   

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   2/8/2013 1:02 PM

   At a course I used to work at we had the same flag but on the 150 markers in the center of the fariway we use 2" or 3" PVC poles and had end caps of the same diameter painted red, white, and blue. Same idea as flag on the green but at 150 marker. The person changing holes simply exchanged the cap on the 150 marker for the corresponding pin placement.