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  1. Robert Shetter
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    3/6/2012 11:03 PM
    Looking for pros and cons from Klingstone users. Feedback appreciated.



  2. Clay Putnam
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    3/7/2012 7:03 AM
    Have used it quite a bit. Installing more this spring. Pros; easy to install, holds up well, easy to repair (if needed), and substantially less labor intensive compared to fabric liners.



  3. Christopher Lewis
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    3/9/2012 1:03 PM
    I have used it in the past, and the problem we have run into is if we hit the clay and klingstone with the cultivating forks on the sandpro. The forks will crack the klingstone and bring chunks up to the surface. But if you can keep from hitting the klingstone with the forks, than it is a great product.



  4. Clay Putnam
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    3/9/2012 5:03 PM
    Christopher brings up a good point. The scarifying tines can break the klingstone but this, IMO, is an advantage over the fabric liners. If the klingstone is damaged, it is much easier to repair; pull back the sand, add klinstone, let dry, then replace sand. And you don't get that annoying fabric sticking up through the sand. If the fabric becomes damaged you must rake an enormous amount of sand away from the damaged area and inevitably sand falls under the damaged area of the liner. This sand must also be removed and then perform all the other steps necessary to make the repair.

    I'm others may feel differently but, for me, the klingstone is my choice.



  5. Robert Shetter
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    3/11/2012 11:03 PM
    Thanks Chris and Clay



  6. Patrick Quinlan
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    3/14/2012 5:03 AM
    I was going to use Klingstone this past winter but it got too cold for application so we changed to the Sand Mat. My first time with any type of liners so I hope all works out well.



  7. Darren Graf
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    1/6/2016 8:01 AM
    I am looking for pricing on the klingstone bunker liner and where to buy it. I want to use it when we renovate our bunkers but I would need some pricing before I start. Any help



  8. Joe Wachter
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    5 posts
    1/6/2016 8:01 AM
    Bob McCormick bobm@klingstone.com is the man. He handles everything Klingstone.



  9. James Smith
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    1/9/2016 8:01 AM
    Darren, have you looked into the Billy Better Bunkers yet? I have researched just about every method and really think if you can afford it it is the best way to go. The reason I say this is because with the BBB you use gravel in the bottom that is bound together which creates one of the best drainage methods I have seen. Your water only has to move down words into the sand but then using the faster draining gravel to allow it to move towards your drain line. I have not looked into the klingstone in a few years but it seems that their method sealed the bottom very well but your water has to move through the slower draining sand to make it to the drain lines. Of course the BBB is better in high rainfall areas then in drought areas where the benefit of the gravel drainage works better.



  10. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    1/9/2016 9:01 AM
    There's pluses and minuses to every liner. IMO, the best value for the quality is Klingstone.



  11. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    1/10/2016 2:01 PM
    The Indiana Green Expo last week had a presentation of 3 different bunker methods by the Supers who had them installed. BBB, Matrix, and capillary Concrete. Each looks like a viable solution but out of our price range. One big unknown is how long each will last and what it will be like replacing each type when the time does come.

    We have been turning our bunkers over for the last 12 years, a few per year, doing the old method of removing the old sand, adding drainage laterals to the existing 1 line down the middle, new pea fill in the trenches, then new sand. No liners, etc.

    We have been adding sod to some of the faces nearly eliminating the high splash look and making the sand surface nearly flat. This has helped with reduction of the post rain event repairs greatly. In some bunkers where lowering the sod down the face wasn't an option, or if we couldn't lower the sod much in order to keep the sand visible from a distance, we dug straight down vertically, in some cases over 2 feet deep, in order to make the floor almost flat with just enough slope to get the water to the drain lines. We have a good sand that even though the sand is very deep, it sets up well with no fried egg lies. The sand in those places still has some slope but does not wash.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

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