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1. Budge Steven R

   
   9/16/2013 9:09 PM

   Will raccoon continue to "plow" for grubs if the grubs are dead, ie sprayed out?
   The real question is: Is it worth spraying once the grubs are present or institute a preventative
   program for next year?

   
   
   
   
2. Melvin Waldron

   

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   9/16/2013 9:09 PM

   Steven Budge, CGCS said: Will raccoon continue to "plow" for grubs if the grubs are dead, ie sprayed out? The real question is: Is it worth spraying once the grubs are present or institute a preventative program for next year?

   Depends on how much damage is occurring now, I don't know if raccoon will continue their behaviour if the grubs arae dead, but I would guess they would. In my opinion, (for what it's worth, and it might depend on how much area you have to treat), I would definitly try getting some of the grubs now espeically in high traffic areas. Then I would look at a preventive program for next season, maybe you can concentrate on high traffic areas, or you might map your current grub populations depending on your budget. I do know while it is a big part of our budget, we have been having a truck come in and spread fertilizer with Acelypryn and Dimension with good results on our grub populations, although we wonder what weather might have played a part in that. I have heard Merit or generics could be fairly inexpensive per acre as well. Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
3. McDonagh Patrick

   
   10/1/2013 8:10 AM

   For the first time in my 16 years we are getting a good population of grubs in our bentgrass tees and fairways. Much to the delight of our neighborhood skunks. Everyday we apply Dylox to the newly torn up areas. We have never sprayed our tees and fairways before due to our budget. What have you guys been successful with? Would it be best to spray in the spring or later in August when the grubs start to show up?
   
   Thanks.

   
   
   
   
4. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   10/1/2013 9:10 AM

   Patrick McDonagh said: For the first time in my 16 years we are getting a good population of grubs in our bentgrass tees and fairways. Much to the delight of our neighborhood skunks. Everyday we apply Dylox to the newly torn up areas. We have never sprayed our tees and fairways before due to our budget. What have you guys been successful with? Would it be best to spray in the spring or later in August when the grubs start to show up?
   
   Thanks.

   
   
   Patrick,
   
   I have been at a couple of places we have done preventive treatment with good results. Years ago (99-00 time frame) we were applying Merit with a fertilizer carrier. It at the time cost us $150 per acre, a little stout, but I hear Merit (and their generic forms) are much cheaper now. It might be possible to spray a generic for I've hear between $25-30 per acre range. I can't confirm at this time, haven't check a price. We had grub problems at that course prior to Merit applications and it brought them under control.
   
   Currently we use Acelepryn in a fertilizer/pre-emergent combo. It's about $272 an acre, which includes a spreader truck making the application for us. We have had great control (grub control that is, weeds, not quite as good) in the areas we've applied it. We also spray Acelepryn on greens, tee tops and a pass around our green banks. That cost is about $180 an acre, but we are going at the 12 oz/acre rate on greens to help with cutworms. (If my math is correct going out at the 8 oz rate, you can get 8 acres out of a 1/2 gallon jug and the cost is in the neighborhood of $120 per acre) Great control in those areas as well.
   
   We try to make all our applications in the May window (also did this with the Merit as well), but I do know the window for Acelepryn is wider (we made a couple of applications in June with no issues).
   
   We will continue to look at other grub control options, but with our small staff, the spreader truck (which is really not the expensive part of the application) with the fertilizer is our preferred method at the moment. We have so many other applications going on at that time, while costing us more, they can be in and out in as little as 45 minutes to two hours max depending on golfers, works best for us at this time.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
5. Ryan Leach

   

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   10/2/2013 6:10 AM

   I have used Aloft and never had any grub problems in the applied areas. Outside those areas the grubs are having a great time chewing roots. I apply it on the week of the 4th of July and it does great here in Ohio. It is 12 oz to the acre if I am not mistaken.

   
   
   
   
6. Larry Taylor

   

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   10/2/2013 7:10 AM

   If you have the money, you can't go wrong with Acelepryn.

   
   
   
   
7. League Michael

   
   10/2/2013 10:10 AM

   Agree on Acelepryn, sprayed at the 8 oz/acre rate first of May and never had any grubs or cutworms all year from one application. Usually have to spray Scimitar every month at least for cutworms. Only problem I had was with the nuisance ants late in the summer.

   
   
   
   
8. Matt Plosila

   

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   10/2/2013 3:10 PM

   Generic imidacloprid sprayed before the 4th of July has been clean all year in WNY. Some rough has been getting tore up for the first time in 5 years so those spots will get sprayed next summer. Cost less than $700 to spray 23 acres. Acelepryn would but nice but gotta save were you can...maybe when its post patent.

   
   
   
   
9. Dalton Andrew

   
   11/24/2013 9:11 AM

   I spray imidacloprid (Merit) every other year and have really good control. It is cheap, less than $25.00 per acre for generics. Dylox works well at killing the grub and stopping the damage from animals digging. I'm not really sure if it's the odor from the Dylox or death of the grub. I often wonder how the animals even know they are present. Can they smell them or hear them?
   
   Andy

   
   
   
   
10. Larry Stowell

    

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    11/24/2013 10:11 AM

    Try spreading some Milorganite as a feeding/digging deterrent in the affected area.

    
    
    
    
11. Robert Donofrio

    

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    9/27/2014 12:09 AM

    On my course here in NJ, the Crows find these grubs like they have radar and I have watched them rip up the turf like a tossed salad.....their hearing is very acute and they look for areas that look like they are drying up....I watched the crows tilt their head while walking in the area.....looked like they were listening! Dylox (granular) works well, and for the poster above...that smell is probably the dead grubs. One time in early September during a hot spell, I had a lot of grubs on my #4 fairway...three days after applying Dylox the smell was that of a rotten animal!!!

    
    
    
    
12. Morozowsky Martin

    
    9/27/2014 4:09 PM

    Acelepryn late March application. Say good bye grubs! in September and October. We would see a lot of skunk damage with the dry down before overseeding and during overseeding. Nothing now 2 years in a row. Its expensive but worth it. However its not real strong on Lepidoptera. September we get fall army worms and cut worms so we use Provaunt or Conserve SC on the greens.
    
    PS. "Lets save the BEES!"
    
    Martin J. Morozowsky
    Seven Oaks Country Club

    
    
    
    
13. Andrew Cross

    

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    9/27/2014 4:09 PM

    I'll second the Acelepryn. Everywhere I've ever used it, clean! I had good success with cut worms with it too. Previous course I was at I only treated greens and tees. Well you could see cut worm activity right up to the exact edge of where I sprayed into approach. Currently we spray wall to wall with it. No damage since doing this program!