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Bentgrass Cultivar Selection

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  1. Christopher Sorrell
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    8/7/2012 6:08 AM
    I will be regrassing my greens this fall and I am trying to choose the best cultivar to fit the situations. I'm dealing with high pH and effluent water as well as really hot summer time temperatures. I like the overall high quality marks of Declaration in the most recent NTEP trials but I wonder if a T-1 and Alpha blend might be the best for my conditions. Anyone have any input?
    Chris Sorrell
    Boiling Springs Golf Course
    Woodward, OK



  2. Tyler Daniels
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    8/7/2012 7:08 AM
    We also have high pH soil (7.3-7.5). Planted our greens four years ago with a combination of Tyee, 007, and Mackenzie. Each one is 33.3% of the mix. Love the combo! One of the best things I think is the recuperation of ballmarks. Good luck this fall!

    Tyler Daniels
    Wine Valley Golf Club



  3. Gordon Seliga
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    8/7/2012 8:08 AM
    Ditto on the Tyee, 007 and Mackenzie. Last year we built a new 4 acre short game area with about 1.5 acres of bentgrass. As an experiment, I seeded the bent areas with 10 different varieties of bentgrass (different varieties in different sections) . It's only 1 year old, but the varieties mentioned above so far are the best performers.

    Gordon Seliga

    Lake View Country Club

    Erie, PA



  4. Sandy Clark
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    8/7/2012 9:08 AM
    I haven't seen many of the varieties mentioned. Are they better than the A and G series that have done so well for the last 15 years?



  5. Dennis Ingram
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    8/7/2012 10:08 AM
    Deceleration is a much more aggressive variety than the T1/Alpha/Tyee and will provide quicker healing if you get thin or in trouble. We have Deceleration and Tyee on greens in the DC area and both preform as well as A1/A4. Just in the last week with all the rain in the east, I have seen the 007/Mackenzie/ and some of the other new varieties go down hill quickly. Nothing wrong with the tried and true A1/A4 blend. Need to remember that these new varieties do not get their feet/roots/strength under them until maybe their third year compared to some of the older varieties such as Pencross or L93. Ultimately the choice should come down to member/guest expectations and how you are going to maintain them.



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    8/7/2012 3:08 PM
    Chris,

    I have heard that a lot of Tyee has been planted in your area and on over into Arkansas as well.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  7. Samuel Leatherberry
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    8/8/2012 6:08 PM
    Anything but G-2.



  8. Rosenthal Gregg
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    8/8/2012 8:08 PM
    My experience with many varieties of newer bentgrass doing new golf course construction and rebuilding would lead me to stick with L93 or Penncross considering you are dealing with a poor water quality concern! I would not put my value and attempt to cross my fingers hoping a newer variety with little experience under these conditions will bring some lucky return under imperfect water conditions, with the poor chemistry you will be dealing with. The older varieties have a proven track record under these conditions and will survive well, providing good playing conditions when managed properly! You can find results and records from others who have managed their greens under similar conditions, with decent results on this web page for instance! Good luck just putting in my opinion based on experience and track record................JMO

    Gregg



  9. Satterwhite Kerry
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    8/8/2012 9:08 PM
    I always liked to conduct my own trials and would seed a few of the varities that I was interested in on a nursery green. It would give me time, usually a season to see how they performed.

    I've seen 007 here in the Midwest and I really liked it. The last two seasons have been pretty tough and it has held up well. COnditions are a little more intense in OK. Based on the climate the last couple of years I would make heat and drought tolerance a prioroty.



  10. Kyle Fick
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    8/9/2012 7:08 PM
    I haven't grown all the varieties discussed, nor am I going to claim to be an expert. I think one other person mentioned it, but I've always been told when selecting a grass of a couple things.
    1) how aggressive do you want it to be and how will that affect your ability to maintain it financially?
    2) WHo are you trying to be and who is your clientel? Are you striving for lightening speed, consistancy, what's the focus of your selection going to be.
    3) Are you knowledgeable enough about the varieties you are narrowing down to maintain them as they are meant to be and are they fit for your climate? One professor in college always told me to go to the courses closest to you and see what they've got, if it works there it might work for you. And you might get a feeling of maintenance costs, disease pressure, traffic resistance, etc. NTEP trials are great, but can you re-create a setting like that. We need to think about the "human" factor as much as machine reproduction.

    To throw in my cheap 2 cents: south western ND, soil pH up in the mid 7's, water source pH even worse with a ton of sodium, carbonates, and bicarbonates, high in iron, etc. Climate here is quite dry to nearly arid. Minimal rain fall, sometimes very exposed winters. We use seaside II bent. I think it's weak in recovery when damaged or coming out of dormancy, but is okay with traffic if you have enough area to move it around, doesn't need a ton of babying otherwise if you have a solid program for it, looks like hell when it migrates away from the green, but overall, is working just fine because we maintain for the environment here.



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