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1. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   12/4/2011 6:12 PM

   I am a Tiger fan and I'm happy with his win.
   My question is would this help the industry?
   Especially if he continues playing well next year?
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
2. Tom Forsythe

   

   0 posts
   
   12/4/2011 7:12 PM

   Did Tiger actually help the industry at any point in his career? I know we were all helping he would but I am not sure he brought many extra players to the game. I know he certainly brought more viewers to television but was there much of a spike in new golfers to the game?

   
   
   
   
3. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   12/5/2011 5:12 AM

   osprey said: Did Tiger actually help the industry at any point in his career? I know we were all helping he would but I am not sure he brought many extra players to the game. I know he certainly brought more viewers to television but was there much of a spike in new golfers to the game?

   
   
   Of course he helped the game. And Mel, yes I do believe he will help bring golf back from the dead, if he keeps winning.

   
   
   
   
4. McCallum David K

   
   12/5/2011 6:12 AM

   Sorry Mel, when I saw Tiger(s) wins I misread...........thought you were congratulating my team....my mistake.

   
   
   
   
5. Peter Bowman

   

   11 posts
   
   12/5/2011 6:12 AM

   And with that win, guess who is probably already the favorite to win the 2012 Masters.

   
   
   
   
6. Andy Jorgensen

   

   1 posts
   
   12/5/2011 8:12 AM

   I think he hurt it.
   
   He did indeed bring more people to the game, no doubt. Developers noticed this and begin building new courses at a breakneck speed. Just as with any new hobby, after a few years, participation drops off further reducing the number of players. That, coupled with the economy and the amount of available time to play the game, has reduced the number of players even more. The result is a golf market that was overbuilt with not enough players to fill tee sheets. Now we are all stuck in this position cutting budgets, laying off staff and, taking reductions in pay and benefits and being terminated ourselves along with reduced green fees to get people in the door to just break even. So, did Tiger ever really "help" the game?
   
   No.

   
   
   
   
7. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   12/5/2011 9:12 AM

   andyjorg said: I think he hurt it.
   
   He did indeed bring more people to the game, no doubt. Developers noticed this and begin building new courses at a breakneck speed. Just as with any new hobby, after a few years, participation drops off further reducing the number of players. That, coupled with the economy and the amount of available time to play the game, has reduced the number of players even more. The result is a golf market that was overbuilt with not enough players to fill tee sheets. Now we are all stuck in this position cutting budgets, laying off staff and, taking reductions in pay and benefits and being terminated ourselves along with reduced green fees to get people in the door to just break even. So, did Tiger ever really "help" the game?
   
   No.

   
   
   Tiger caused golf to be overbuilt? Come now. Tiger brought attention to the game which brought more players to courses. This is a course owners dream. If you are looking to point fingers, a good place to start is the National Golf Foundation, not Tiger. The NGF criss-crossed the country touting the virtues and profit of course ownership by spewing ridiculous ROI numbers; remember "Build it and they will come"? Heck our own association presented a seminar, which I attended, discussing how and why we all should build a golf course. The owners and developers were hooked lock-stock-and-barrel. They built and built and now we are left holding the bag. But to suggest it is Tiger's fault is a huge stretch IMO.

   
   
   
   
8. Andy Jorgensen

   

   1 posts
   
   12/5/2011 11:12 AM

   putnam said: Tiger caused golf to be overbuilt?

   
   
   Yes. You see....

   putnam said: Tiger brought attention to the game which brought more players to courses.

   
   
   
   
9. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   12/5/2011 2:12 PM

   I actually thought the course building boom hit before Tiger became a hit. (early 90's - Tiger arrived in late 96 and 97 was his first big year? I could be wrong though).
   
   Did see that he donated his winnings yesterday to his foundation.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
10. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    12/5/2011 4:12 PM

    andyjorg said:

    putnam said: Tiger caused golf to be overbuilt?

    
    
    Yes. You see....

    putnam said: Tiger brought attention to the game which brought more players to courses.

    
    
    Nope...

    
    
    
    
11. Wallace Jeffrey V

    
    12/5/2011 6:12 PM

    pbowman said: And with that win, guess who is probably already the favorite to win the 2012 Masters.

    
    
    Me?

    
    
    
    
12. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    12/5/2011 7:12 PM

    Mr. doesn't get a guess.