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The Trump Voter Still Loves The President

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  1. Ronald Kirkman
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    6/25/2017 9:06 PM
    Greetings;

    The following was written by Ralph Nader;

    The following judgements comprise responses from a composite, still loyal Trump voter, taken, with a light touch, from conversations with these voters and interviews in the media. They merit our attention.

    1. I have few expectations of politicians, and Trump meets those I really care about. He is against abortion and gun control, selects conservative judges, favors a strong defense, and loves his country.

    2. He wants to make America Great Again and make America build again, in America.Who can disagree with that wonderful, patriotic wish? Since we all want that to happen, saying it over and over again may make it happen. That's what my Spanish language high school teacher kept telling us and it worked.

    3. He brags all the time about himself and his businesses. That's because he believes in himself, no matter what happens to his sometimes failing companies. Believing in oneself is what my parents always taught me. To have someone believe so much in himself on National TV gives me the confidence I need to believe in myself.

    4. Sure he fibs a lot, like a lot of people. but he fibs optimistically against the dismal truth. He gives me hope that way.

    5. He believes in our military. That makes me feel safe. Imagine a president who doesn't believe in the military. How could he be the commander-in-chief.

    6. My president is a great multitasker. He is taken care of the government's business and his business. Some people say that is a conflict. I say that what's best for Uncle Sam under President Trump is also good for all business, not just his great business interests. He's got skin in the game that way. That's good. He's not going to bomb his overseas hotels.

    7. He doesn't pay income taxes. Who doesn't secretly envy and admire someone who can do that and get away with it year after year? Don't we want smart presidents?

    8. He even got taxpayers to subsidize and save his shaky businesses. That's one train I and I'll bet, millions of Americans would want to get on. So he's showing us the way.

    9. He smiles but never seems to laugh. I like that. only hyenas laugh all the time. Being president in these times is no laughing matter. Besides, I can get my laughs from late-night TV, unless their laughing about my president.

    10. He hates the media in general and most reporters. I'm OK with that. The media are just out for themselves. That's why they've shut out Americans like me. I love the way he can beat up on the media and keep getting more media because he brings them higher ratings. He promise to "be our voice." That works. He's got the media in a trap of their own making.

    11. Trump looks and sounds like us. We can believe him when he wants to block immigrants coming to America to take our jobs.

    12. He's rich and can't be bought, unlike Hillary and the rest of the career politicians. He's got his own planes, his own mansions and resorts, so he doesn't owe anybody anything. I like that.

    Ralph Nader is author of "Unstoppable:The Emerging Left-Right Alliance to Dismantle the Corporate State" and is a four -time presidential candidate.

    He was the Keynote Speaker at the GCSSA Conference in Cincinnati in 1971 or 1972.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  2. Larry Allan
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    6/26/2017 4:06 AM
    Whats the source? I couldn't find it



  3. Ronald Conard
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    6/26/2017 9:06 AM
    He hates science, the truth, facts, decorum, brown people, human rights, our election sovereignty, and our pristine, diminishing open spaces but loves America. Who could argue with that?



  4. Christopher Thuer
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    6/26/2017 2:06 PM
    For decades, the masses cry out for a non status quo politician to run for POTUS. Now that we have one as POTUS, half cry out wishing for a status quo politician.

    Have to agree with most of what Mr. Nader wrote.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  5. Melvin Waldron
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    6/26/2017 3:06 PM
    Yeah we cried for a non status-quo politician to run for President, but we were hoping they would be at least competent.

    The President claims the Democrats are holding up his nominees, while in fact it is his incompetence that has failed to nominate many positions that need filled, of course many he did fill are filled with people of similar incompetence, Generals Mattis and Kelly are good, I think Purdue is adequate for agriculture, and a couple of other picks adequate also (thank goodness he got a do over for Labor), and then there is DeVos, who paid for her position, Pruitt, Carson for HUD? (I could have seen as surgeon general) Perry? I guess cause their is oil in his state? Tillerson I'm still on the fence about.

    His Travel Ban finally is allowed to PARTIALLY stand. Wasn't suppose to be for what 90-120 days to improve the vetting process? Well it's past 90 to 120 days, why didn't they improve the vetting process during that time?

    I'm still waiting to see the health care plan he campaigned on...why didn't he give it to Ryan instead of Ryan introducing a plan that is even worse then the ACA, heck the hard liners are against it as well as the moderates, and that's just Republicans. I'm welling to listen to anyone explain to me how the AHCA is better then the ACA. I understand the ones that will do better are the young and the rich, (I think even the insurance companies will be hurt?) I know anyone with a pre-existing condition can now be charged more, (like their Rx and other medical cost are already taking most of their money, they won't be able to afford the higher premiums, if they could have afforded them before) and they were going to charge instead of 3 times more because of age, it would go up to 5 times as more, although at least it sounds like that might have been worked on.

    Sending a novice to negotiate Middle East peace, hey just because JFK had RFK working for him, at least they both had political experience prior to becoming President and Attorney General.

    Oh and he complained about President Obama for playing golf, yet I think he is trying to get in more rounds in 4 years than Obama played in 8 (with most of Obama's rounds played at Andrews AFB) just incase President Trump doesn't get the extra 4 years.

    The only thing I can see is, it seems, it doesn't matter if some good Obama polices (Cuba, regulations to Wall Street and Banking) so-so polices, (war against terror, which it seems is carrying on as before with some changes) or bad, (depending on point of view and need, the ACA), all President Trump is trying to do is remove Obama's fingerprints from things, I've heard and don't disagree, it stems from the roasting of Trump at the White House Correspondence Dinner those many years ago, and it doesn't matter who it affects. But that is just my opinion. On the other issues above my last statement, if you can educate me where I'm wrong, I'm willing to listen.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  6. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    6/27/2017 9:06 AM
    Christopher Thuer, CGCS said: For decades, the masses cry out for a non status quo politician to run for POTUS. Now that we have one as POTUS, half cry out wishing for a status quo politician.

    Have to agree with most of what Mr. Nader wrote.


    That's like saying someone who was crying out for water should be happy with battery acid.



  7. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    6/27/2017 11:06 AM
    Greetings;

    Larry, the article was taken from the Boston Globe on Friday, June 23. It was in the front section of the newspaper, I guess you can call that the A section.

    Mel and Ron;

    President Trump is a hell of a lot smarter than Hillary or Obama and those Democrats in both the House and Senate. Mr. Trump is not incompetent. Democrats and others who dislike Trump will say anything they wish against him. Well, I like Trump and I for one will back him 100 %. The comment made against Mr. Chris Thuer's article was uncalled for, not only he, but all who voted for Mr. trump.

    Maybe you gentlemen will take bets on Trump's impeachment. Mel, what Democrat is capable of being President? How about Pelosi or Schumer?

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  8. Peter Bowman
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    6/27/2017 10:06 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:

    That's like saying someone who was crying out for water should be happy with battery acid.


    And that's like saying saying the Democrats in the House could have elected Ohio's Tim Ryan to the leadership role, but chose Nancy Pelosi.....again.



  9. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    6/28/2017 10:06 AM
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said:
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:

    That's like saying someone who was crying out for water should be happy with battery acid.


    And that's like saying saying the Democrats in the House could have elected Ohio's Tim Ryan to the leadership role, but chose Nancy Pelosi.....again.


    Yep, there it is.... the logic that has us with the leadership void we have today. "Nevermind our guy, your guy sucks more" Pelosi? That's a pretty low bar to set Pete.



  10. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    6/28/2017 10:06 PM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Greetings;

    Larry, the article was taken from the Boston Globe on Friday, June 23. It was in the front section of the newspaper, I guess you can call that the A section.

    Mel and Ron;

    President Trump is a hell of a lot smarter than Hillary or Obama and those Democrats in both the House and Senate. Mr. Trump is not incompetent. Democrats and others who dislike Trump will say anything they wish against him. Well, I like Trump and I for one will back him 100 %. The comment made against Mr. Chris Thuer's article was uncalled for, not only he, but all who voted for Mr. trump.

    Maybe you gentlemen will take bets on Trump's impeachment. Mel, what Democrat is capable of being President? How about Pelosi or Schumer?

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    You make me laugh Capt. Now I know where Jen get's her talent. Smarter then both President Obama and Secretary Clinton? You do know they made it through law school, a little bit farther then President Trump. Now who is more trust worthy? I thought Trump had the nod over Clinton, but that might change by the time the investigations are done. I do think there are people on Trump's team that are going down, he might survive, but I think he believes he only has 4 years, that is why he is trying to play so much golf and play more rounds in 4 years then Obama played in 8, removing Obama's name from the "record books" again.

    As far as possible Democrats to challenge President Trump, Pelosi and Schumer are both non starters for me (your being funny again). A couple that come to mind for me are Sen. Cory Booker - NJ, (although the Bernie bashers have some issues because of his money coming from big Pharm, especially when he didn't stand up for that one drug bill that would have allowed imports, but he did explain why he didn't back that and has shown he is still looking out for Americans. He doesn't speak ill of people, check out his Twitter feed when people troll him, he doesn't ignore them, but will speak back to them with kindness. I think he would be willing to cross the aisle. As Mayor of Newark, he was out among his citizens, trying to improve his city. I would be concerned with his toughness, and foreign policy expertise? Another favorite, US Rep. Tulsi Gabbard a veteran, who promotes peace over war. Did go for Sanders, maybe a little left for me, but I think she isn't going to be pushed around in the international community. While I worry a little because of his age, probably on a 4 year term, and I know he can be goofy, but he is someone you don't want to piss off, is Biden. A couple here from Missouri, although they might be a few years off is Jason Kander a war veteran, recently Secretary of State here, served in the state house also, almost beat Sen. Roy Blunt. Chris Koster who was our Attorney General here until the last election and ran for Gov. A former Republican who I find pretty middle of the road. There are probably some others. Just like there are a few good republicans.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  11. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    6/29/2017 4:06 PM
    Captain do you still love the guy? You don't really, do you? If so what does that say about you? You know, birds of a feather I guess.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/ ... index.html

    Sen. Lindsey Graham makes my point when he says "Mr. President, your tweet was beneath the office and represents what is wrong with American politics, not the greatness of America."

    So now was my analogy uncalled for or factual? Do you not see that this type of behavior is a window to the man's character? I can't fathom anyone with any shred of decency, Republican or Democrat, "loving" this guy.



  12. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    6/29/2017 8:06 PM
    Why would anyone more competent want to run for POTUS?

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  13. Larry Allan
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    6/30/2017 4:06 AM
    Christopher Thuer, CGCS said: Why would anyone more competent want to run for POTUS?

    Good point Chris. I've often asked myself that



  14. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    6/30/2017 7:06 AM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said: Captain do you still love the guy? You don't really, do you? If so what does that say about you? You know, birds of a feather I guess.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/ ... index.html

    Sen. Lindsey Graham makes my point when he says "Mr. President, your tweet was beneath the office and represents what is wrong with American politics, not the greatness of America."

    So now was my analogy uncalled for or factual? Do you not see that this type of behavior is a window to the man's character? I can't fathom anyone with any shred of decency, Republican or Democrat, "loving" this guy.


    Stephen Colbert made the excellent point about Lindsey Graham's quote when he said, "No, it's not what's wrong with American politics, it's what's wrong with the American President;"



  15. Corey Eastwood
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    6/30/2017 11:06 AM
    I have tried to stay out of this. Not my Candidate but hoped for the best at the Inauguration. This President is an embarrassment to our Nation. Obviously has a mental problem and the bullying is not going to fly.

    Corey Eastwood CGCS, Stockton Golf & CC, Retired

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