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  1. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    1/11/2017 4:01 PM
    Greetings;

    "The True Flag" - Author of this book Stephen Kinzer - the following is from his book.

    Among many CIA operations to influence elections in the Middle East, one in 1975 helped elect a prime minister of Israel whose policies the United States favored. In Central America, intervening in elections is an even older habit.

    The CIA recruited a pro-American economist to run for president of Nicaragua in 1984, and when it became clear that he would lose, pulled him out of the race amid laments about about the lack of electoral freedom in Nicaragua. In 2009, the United States encouraged a military coup in which the elected president of Honduras was deposed, and then endorsed a new election in which he was not allowed to run.

    The most recent U.S. intervention in foreign politics came in Ukraine. In 2014, as protesters gathered there in an effort to over-through their elected government, a senior State Department official appeared in the crowd to encourage their revolt. She was caught telling an aide which Ukrainian politician was "the guy" Americans had chosen to be Ukraine's next leader, and asserting that the United States would "midwife this thing." A few weeks later our "guy" became prime minister- setting off a crisis that ended with Russian military intervention.

    Condemning interference in foreign elections is eminently reasonable.The disingenuous howls of anti-Russian rage now echoing through Washington, however, ignore much history.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  2. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    1/12/2017 2:01 AM
    You don't understand. It's okay if we do it. You omitted some of the whoppers the U.S. has pulled.

    In 1953 the CIA and British operatives contrived to depose the electerd Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammed Mosaddegh, and replace him with the more amenable Shah Reza Pahlavi, eventually leading to the Iranian Revolution and the hard-core Islamist regime we see today.

    In 1954, Washington unseated Guatemala's left-wing president, Jacobo Arbenz, who had had the temerity to challenge the vast control of the United Fruit Co., a U.S. corporation, with agrarian laws that would be fairer to Guatemalan farmers. The CIA went on to install and back a series of right-wing dictatorships that brutalized the impoverished nation for almost half a century. This was also a great inspiration for Che Guevara.



  3. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    1/12/2017 6:01 PM
    If Russia did anything they helped Hilz and company be more transparent, just as they promised they would be. Did the help change opinions of Hilz? Probably not.

    What did she do to Putin anyway? Sell Putin brown Uranium? The yellow Uranium is OK but not the brown. It causes people to really freak out.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  4. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    1/13/2017 12:01 AM
    Yeah, we should be glad Russia is meddling in our elections. I hope they do it all the time from now on.



  5. Curtis Nickerson
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    0 posts
    1/13/2017 7:01 AM
    Didn't the US recently meddle in Israels election?



  6. Trevor Monreal
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    5 posts
    1/13/2017 11:01 AM
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: You don't understand. It's okay if we do it. You omitted some of the whoppers the U.S. has pulled.

    Let's not forget our influence (and the media's) in overthrowing the Shah of Iran in the late 70's...boy that worked out well for US and the world.

    Curtis Nickerson said: Didn't the US recently meddle in Israels election?

    Sort of...
    The state department sent $350,000 (chicken feed) to OneVoice for "peace" negotiations. To everyone's shock the funds were then used towards campaign efforts against Netahyahu.
    Weak effort at best



  7. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    1/13/2017 1:01 PM
    Trevor Monreal said:
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: You don't understand. It's okay if we do it. You omitted some of the whoppers the U.S. has pulled.

    Let's not forget our influence (and the media's) in overthrowing the Shah of Iran in the late 70's...boy that worked out well for US and the world.

    The Shah was thrown out by radical Islamists in the Iranian Revolution. He was always a stalwart U.S. ally. How did the U.S. and the media conspire to overthrow him?



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