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  1. Heath Puckett
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    6/6/2011 7:06 PM
    I believe this was discussed recently in the old forums. Since I am considering purchasing one, and it seems to work very well, I'd like to hear others comments, suggestions, and observations regarding their experiences with this particular moisture meter. We have bentgrass greens and a small crew. Currently, my wilt watching crew consists of either myself and/or the assistant. I am hoping this tool can help to improve our water management, and maybe monitor moisture levels closer to maintain a drier surface.
    Do you use the GPS capability? Is is worth the cost?
    Thanks.



  2. Chris Cook
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    6/7/2011 3:06 PM
    Heath, we use the TDR 100, which doesn't have the data logging capabilities. We love them and use them every day, all day long. I send someone out every morning checking known problem areas and then all our guys on the syringe team have one to monitor for dry spots. They are really great for the young guys on the staff because they don't have to be agronomists to be able to help you keep the greens right where you want them to be. Just establish a threshold and tell the guys not to let them get below a certain number. If spots do develop, they can water these areas and watch them hydrate as the day goes on. Feel free to call me if you would like more information. 918-272-1175



  3. Callum Haughn
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    6/10/2011 10:06 AM
    We purchased the TDR 300 this winter and so far it has been a great tool. Still working out our percents to see exactly where we want to be but the way it has changed our irrigation scheduling already has been great. We purchased the GPS addition and subscribed to specmaps which does give a really good look at what is happening across your whole green, plus being able to mark sprinkler head locations and throw, however we haven't used it as much as we would like to so far as we have only turned on our overheads once this year because of all of the rain. So long story short, the TDR 300 is well worth the money, jury is still out on the specmaps feature.



  4. Justin Lonon
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    3/30/2017 1:03 PM
    We are finally moving up in the world by adding a moisture meter to our arsenal. So far it been a great tool for the crew. They no long have to pull plugs to check moisture levels. This is my first experience with these meters. For those using moisture meter, what numbers are you all trying to keep your greens at. We are currently trying stay between 16-21. Any suggestion?



  5. Justin Lonon
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    3/30/2017 1:03 PM
    Sorry Tifdwarf greens in central Texas.



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    3/31/2017 8:03 AM
    Justin,

    I'm on bent in the transition zone, all but 4 greens USGA spec, the other 4 are push ups with a decent 3" or so cap of sand. Depending on what the weather forecast is for the day, what is planned, and a few other factors, I like to see my greens about 17 in the morning (using the 3" probes). If they are below 15 we will spot water those areas. I have learned that we really don't start seeing wilt until 10 or below (summer only as just a week ago we were down in the 6-8 range and didn't see any wilt, but it was moist below the 3" range where we do have roots this time of year). If I'm spraying something in the morning that I don't have to water in, I will send someone in front of the sprayer and anything below 20, plus our known hot spots like ridges and such, we will water to get above 20 to 25. Of course I post all of this, but will tell you, you will need to find what numbers you are most comfortable with at your course. I've been using mine for 3 or 4 years now, and I am still learning, although I do think I have a pretty good handle on them now. So since I'm good, I will screw all of that up and now start playing with the 4.8" probes for the spring, and try to get a better idea of those numbers also. I wish I could afford a second one so I wouldn't have to switch probes.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  7. Kenneth Ingram
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    3/31/2017 10:03 AM
    Hold off Justin. There is a new model. I think they call it the 350. Larger numbers, lighted, gives temperature, and EC and it is only about $200 more. Saw it in Orlando. Check it out. Kenneth Ingram, UMD.



  8. Joshua Sawyer
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    3/31/2017 12:03 PM
    The other note should be that your soil is going to dictate what your number is going to be. More organic...more moisture held...different wilting points than strait sand. Play with it awhile to get a comfort level on what you are seeing.

    You will figure out where your numbers fall. We use them as a baseline for hand watering, as well as making decisions on nightly watering. Rather than feeling like it is "x" days since watering, so I must need to water, you can now quantify it and have a relative assurance that you either need to water, or can go another day. Good luck.



  9. David Stout
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    3/31/2017 3:03 PM
    Readings seem to be very unique to each course. With our untreated effluent water, our values are much higher than the ones you list, but this is due to higher "salts" in our profile. In fact, after large rain events our numbers will be lower than they were prior to the rain. I still pull plugs just to verify what a "20" looks like and feels like as it will change based on time of year, salts in the profile, etc. They are a valuable tool once you are comfortable with your values. I feel we spend nearly as much time spot watering as before, but see less wilt as we're spending time on areas that truly need it vs. areas we think need it.



  10. Michael Sullivan
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    4/3/2017 9:04 AM
    With drought and water restrictions the last half of last year in Southwest CT, began to use my old one a lot. Still works well. Considering the new one with the GPS and Bluetooth. Appreciate thoughts on the added cost/value. How much are you using the bluetooth/ GPS? I haven't really recorded the numbers, more just monitoring moisture levels and trying to be more proactive with reducing my water during the drought up here.
    The numbers I was using as a good baseline were in the 17 range, as well. 16 push-up and 3 modified USGA greens.

    Thanks

    Michael Sullivan
    Brennan Golf
    Stamford, CT



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