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1. Jason Baker

   

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   6/27/2013 10:06 AM

   ok,
   If an hourly employee works 42 hours they get paid two hours overtime at time and a half.
   
   If an hourly employee works 40 hours and 4 of them are a "recognized holiday" they get paid 4 hours holiday pay at time and a half.
   
   With that established what if;
   
   If an hourly employee works 45 hours and 5 of them are a "recognized holiday" how man hours at time and a half should he be paid?
   
   If an hourly employee works 50 hours and 5 of them are a "recognized holiday" how man hours at time and a half should he be paid?

   
   
   
   
2. Keith Lamb

   

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   6/27/2013 10:06 AM

   Jason Baker said: ok,
   If an hourly employee works 42 hours they get paid two hours overtime at time and a half.
   
   If an hourly employee works 40 hours and 4 of them are a "recognized holiday" they get paid 4 hours holiday pay at time and a half.
   
   With that established what if;
   
   If an hourly employee works 45 hours and 5 of them are a "recognized holiday" how man hours at time and a half should he be paid?
   5 hours @ 1.5x
   If an hourly employee works 50 hours and 5 of them are a "recognized holiday" how man hours at time and a half should he be paid?
   10 hours @ 1.5x
   
   1.5x for anything over 40 hours/week and 1.5x for company observed holidays
   

   
   
   
   
3. Jason Baker

   

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   6/27/2013 10:06 AM

   Keith, that is how i have always done it but your last sentence seems to contradict. If He worked 45 hours ,5 hours holiday and 5 hours over time should we owe him 10 hours 1.5x ?
   I have never done it that way. But the argument seems to hold some water.

   
   
   
   
4. Corey Eastwood

   

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   6/27/2013 11:06 AM

   Company holiday they are paid for it without working. Any hours worked on that holiday that are over forty is an additional 1.5 above holiday pay. If less than forty straight time plus holiday pay. I am sure it varies state to state. You should check with State Labor Board to avoid any penalties down the line with a disgruntled employee.

   
   Corey Eastwood CGCS, Stockton Golf & CC, Retired
   
   
5. Keith Lamb

   

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   6/27/2013 12:06 PM

   We don't have any "Paid" holidays here. If they work one of the 5 holidays we observe they get paid 1.5x for hours worked. If a guy works 32 hours and 8 hours on a holiday he gets 32 hours at regular pay and 8 hours at 1.5x. If he works more than 40 hours in a 7 day work week he gets 1.5x for those hours above 40. Our guys get a set amount of PTO based on service time that they can use for sick, holidays, vacation, etc...

   
   
   
   
6. Melvin Waldron

   

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   6/27/2013 12:06 PM

   Jason Baker said: Keith, that is how i have always done it but your last sentence seems to contradict. If He worked 45 hours ,5 hours holiday and 5 hours over time should we owe him 10 hours 1.5x ?
   I have never done it that way. But the argument seems to hold some water.

   
   
   I think where the confusion might be is where did he work the extra hours over 40? Is he counting the 5 hours worked on the holiday as regular time, then when all the hours add up he is getting those 5 as overtime? You either count the time worked on the holiday as automatic overtime, then you only count the actual hours worked or you just count the hours over 40 as overtime. It almost sounds like a double dipping.
   
   I know how our city does it, if we work the actual holiday and do not take the holiday off some other time in our work week, we get automatic OT for those hours worked on the holiday. If they want to "take their holiday" and they are scheduled to work the holiday, they will take another day off during the week.
   
   I have one guy who's normal schedule is Sunday - Thursday, he will take his holiday on Thursday, the other guy who works the Tuesday -Saturday schedule will take his holiday on Tuesday. I could take my holiday on Wednesday since both my full timers will be here, but it will depend on the weather as well. You don't say if they will earn any holiday pay if they don't work on the holiday. What I end up doing in season is work the holiday to set up the course and take automatic OT, then I also will work a regular 40 hours and then I get 8 hours of straight time for our paid holiday. So I will have about 48 hours of straight time and whatever I worked the holiday as OT, while the hours worked on the holiday maybe be overtime, any other overtime has to be work that is more then 40 hours. As I read this it's about as clear as mud, but hopefully someone understands.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
7. Larry Allan

   

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   6/27/2013 2:06 PM

   It is easy up here. Our course employees are considered agricultural labourers and can work any number of hours without being paid overtime. Of course all other employees at the facility receive overtime after 44 hours per week. It makes for strained interdepartmental relations

   
   
   
   
8. Timothy Walker

   

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   6/27/2013 3:06 PM

   Larry Allan said: It is easy up here. Our course employees are considered agricultural labourers and can work any number of hours without being paid overtime. Of course all other employees at the facility receive overtime after 44 hours per week. It makes for strained interdepartmental relations

   
   
   Just what we need - something else for the various departments to hate each other more...

   
   
   
   
9. Andy Jorgensen

   

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   6/27/2013 5:06 PM

   All depends on company policy.
   
   For us, holiday pay is automatic 8 hours regular pay, whether they work or not. If they work on a holiday, any hours worked are counted towards their regular pay. If they are over 40 hours worked for the week, everything over is overtime, but holiday pay remains paid as regular pay.
   
   For intance:
   
   45 hours + 8 hours holiday. They get paid 48 hours regular pay, and 5 hours ot.
   
   32 hours + 8 hours holiday. They get 40 hours regular pay.
   
   55 hours + 8 hours holiday, and 5 of the 55 was on the holiday, they still get 48 hours regular pay and 15 hours ot. In the case of the 5 hours they worked on the holiday, in reality, yes, they made Double pay. But it is paid as regular pay twice.
   
   There is no law that states you have to pay holiday pay. It is a benefit that is left up to individual employers to decide how it is paid. Each company determines what rate holiday work is paid at. some time and a half, some double time. Some companies don't even pay holiday pay, therefore if the employee does not work that day, they get no pay. If they do work, those hours would be counted as regular pay. Of course anything over 40 is time and a half for the week.
   
   For instance, company A decides all hours worked on a holiday is time and a half. Employee works 34 hours regular, and 4 hours holiday. The employee would be paid for 40 hours pay, even though they only work 38. Likewise, if his regular hours were 40, and an additional 6 on the holiday, the employee would be paid 9 hours ot.
   
   Company B decides holiday pay is double time. Employee works 36 hours regular, 2 hours holiday. Employee would be paid for 40 hours.