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  1. Larry Allan
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    12/27/2013 9:12 AM
    I have a few friends who have autistic children so maybe that is why this article and others hit home. Back when my boy was at that vaccination age Jenny McCarthy etal were on about autism being caused by the MMR vaccinations. I went through a few sleepless nights after his shot and luckily it turned out fine.
    There has been a huge upsurge of autism cases in the western world that seem to coincide with the MMR but as this article points out there has also been a huge increase during that time in the use of Tylenol. Like Larry Stowell always says you can't really tell what works unless you have an untreated check plot. In the case of Autism it looks as though, through coincidence we do have that untreated check. Cuba has the highest vaccination rate in the world and yet there has been no spike in Autism. Tylenol is only available by prescription.
    I have never taken Tylenol after seeing a 60 minutes report years ago on liver failure when taking Tylenol for hangovers. I like beer more than I hate pain. Acetaminophen OD is now the largest cause of liver failure in the US

    The following is an excerpt from a paper I was reading followed by a link to the study:

    "Such a country is Cuba. The highest estimate of the total incidence of autism in Cuba is 185 cases out of a total population of 11,000,000 (0.00168% of the population) compared with an estimate of as high as 1.5 million in a total United States population of 300 million (0.50%) [6, 7]. The percentage of the population with autism in the United States is thus 298 times higher than in Cuba. Cuba is much more economically challenged than the United States, with the per capita income of Cuba approximately eight times lower than that in the United States. Despite the economic challenges presented to the communist government of Cuba, basic healthcare is readily available and there are a large number of physicians trained in 14 different medical schools. Unlike the United States, where vaccines are optional in many states, vaccines are compulsory in Cuba and Cuba has one of the most highly vaccinated populations in the world against a wide variety of infectious agents.[8] For example, the vaccination rate for measles was reported to be 99.7%. The association of autism with various vaccines has had a very controversial history with inflamed passions on both sides of the debate and will not be examined here.

    However, a topic much less frequently addressed in association with autism is the therapies that are given in conjunction with vaccines. The practice of prescribing acetaminophen as a prophylactic fever preventative is widespread in the United States but is very uncommon in Cuba (personal communications, Dr Olympio Rodriquez Santos MD, MSc, Allergist, Camaguey, Cuba). In the United States, some physicians have started to advise parents to begin to take acetaminophen prophylactically daily 5 days prior to childhood vaccines; some children on such prophylactic treatment had an autistic regression that began prior to vaccination (personal communication, Kerry Scott Lane MD, Anesthesiologist, West Palm Beach, Florida, USA). In Cuba, acetaminophen is not approved as an over-the-counter (OTC) product, however, it has been available as an OTC product since 1959 in the United States. Furthermore, in Cuba, prophylactic use of antipyretic drugs is not the standard medical treatment for vaccine-related fever (personal communications with Dr Olympio Rodriquez Santos). If high fever continues after vaccination in Cuba for more than 2 days, the parents are advised to visit the physician's office where the drug metamizole is most commonly prescribed. Prescription of acetaminophen in such cases is rare. Metamizole is used in many countries throughout the world but is banned in the United States and some other countries because of a rare association with agranulocytosis.[9]
    http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/Acetaminophen.asp



  2. Sandy Clark
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    12/27/2013 12:12 PM
    Larry, I have heard so many suspicions on autism including the age of the birth mother because so many are waiting to give birth later in life. It does seem as if there is a uptick in autism cases but the proposed causes seem to be so many things that I don't know what one should believe. I know enough people have bought into the vaccination idea that we are now seeing troubling diseases come back. That is certainly becoming a real problem as well.



  3. Hardy Andrew
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    12/27/2013 1:12 PM
    I have twin sons with Autism. The only common thread around the world is the deterioration in the environment. Google David Suzuki and autism. He has some much more scientific related opinions and they all stem back to environmental degradation.

    Just some food for thought from a parent that's living this cruel reality.



  4. Dinger Greg
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    12/27/2013 2:12 PM
    Andrew Hardy said: I have twin sons with Autism. The only common thread around the world is the deterioration in the environment. Google David Suzuki and autism. He has some much more scientific related opinions and they all stem back to environmental degradation.

    Just some food for thought from a parent that's living this cruel reality.


    A ten year old daughter here. Born seven weeks preemie, first thirty days of her life were spent in the NICU. We brought home a perfectly healthy, small child. By age two, she was "sick" one out of three weeks. I say "sick" because her only ailment was severe fevers, 104-105*, with meds. Peds all shook their heads because she had no other symptoms, other than the misery that a 105* fever brings. Their suggestion? Tylenol. Im not pointing a finger in any direction, be it Tylenol, vaccines, environment, but what I do know is that I watched a bright eyed, perfect skin colored, vibrant child morph into distant eyes, pale, and very ill for a few years. We took an alternative approach to treatment, out of pocket as it was all considered experimental, and over 38 trips to Phoenix in two years, to

    http://center4autism.org/

    Our child still has Autism, and always will as far as I can tell, but she has beautiful color again, her eyes are back to focused and she makes eye contact, and she tries like crazy to talk and sing. Early on to our visits, long before this study was published, the Dr. at Care warned us heavily on the use of Tylenol.

    There is a lot of misunderstanding out there on the vaccination issue, but I will say this, that our Dr. did blood work often, believe me, I paid for it every time. She didn't make a move or suggestion, without the backup of the analysis. Our daughter carries huge remnants of her MMR vaccine, like 55 on a 1-10 scale (spitting numbers but that's the grandness of it). She was also over the top in Mercury, Arsenic, and other bad crap I don't quite remember. I'm not on some McCarthy bandwagon, but I will say that we owe it to our kids to be very diligent with anything people want to stick them with.



  5. Larry Allan
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    12/27/2013 3:12 PM
    Hi Andrew, you were one of the people I was thinking of. Have you heard anything about a Tylenol connection from any of the Autism Associations you may be dealing with?

    If the research sited in my initial post is true, (and it is quite current) it might actually narrow down the possibilities instead of widening them as I believe Suzuki is doing in his broad based statements about environmental degradation.

    Greg, there is a section sited in the report about increased levels of heavy metals in hair samples in autistic children, but it points to that occurring with the use of Tylenol rather or not the child comes down with Autism. They site the idea that Tylenol may cause damage to the liver that does not allow for the elimination of the heavy metals

    Our neighbours across the road just had a son diagnosed and they have been desperately trying everything to have him treated. Somethings as strange as cranial manipulation.

    I really feel for people in this situation and just found the Cuba/US comparison startling. It seems like the perfect yet cruelest double blind/check plot study ever devised



  6. Sandy Clark
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    12/27/2013 3:12 PM
    I had all of my shots so many years ago that I am sure what they manufacture now isn't the same medication we received. It is probably better in many ways but anything with mercury or arsenic in most any quantity doesn't sound good. Environmental degradation may be a legitimate cause as may be Tylenol. All I can judge by is the seemingly much higher numbers than were ever seen when I was growing up. Autism also seems to be found in varying levels of ability to function. Our neighbor kid across the street has graduated from college, drives a car but in many ways remains extremely reserved. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays with his parents forever. I wish we knew exactly what is going on but one thing to consider is that Tylenol didn't exist when I was young, just good old fashion aspirin. I was born in 46 and it has only been the past 30 to 40 years that autism seems to have become so much more of a challenge. I am not point fingers but didn't Tylenol hit the markets in the mid 60's?



  7. Hardy Andrew
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    12/27/2013 3:12 PM
    I had never heard the Tylenol theory. The vaccines were shot down when the Dr who did the study was deemed a fraud.

    Greg my wife and look at old pictures and can't believe we lost our boys. The twins just completed an Intense Behavioural Intervention program. We were on a wait list for 3yrs, but, man it has changed our lives. We have our boys back again, granted they are non-verbal and communicate with iPads.

    Life dealt us a crappy hand but we have made the best of it. As a sidebar, we did not vaccinate our youngest son. My wife was adamant that it didn't happen and our youngest is a typical child.

    We do a lot of asking "why us" but it doesn't help. We have two loving boys who font give a crap about grass or golf course members.



  8. Dinger Greg
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    12/27/2013 7:12 PM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: I had all of my shots so many years ago that I am sure what they manufacture now isn't the same medication we received. It is probably better in many ways but anything with mercury or arsenic in most any quantity doesn't sound good. Environmental degradation may be a legitimate cause as may be Tylenol. All I can judge by is the seemingly much higher numbers than were ever seen when I was growing up. Autism also seems to be found in varying levels of ability to function. Our neighbor kid across the street has graduated from college, drives a car but in many ways remains extremely reserved. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays with his parents forever. I wish we knew exactly what is going on but one thing to consider is that Tylenol didn't exist when I was young, just good old fashion aspirin. I was born in 46 and it has only been the past 30 to 40 years that autism seems to have become so much more of a challenge. I am not point fingers but didn't Tylenol hit the markets in the mid 60's?


    http://www.nvic.org/downloads/49-doses-posterb.aspx

    Sandy, You may find some if those stats interesting.



  9. Jon Gansen
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    1/4/2014 9:01 AM
    You don't have to get to far on the page to be startled at the very least. Animal and insect DNA and RNA included with a whole host of crap. I am no chemist but why would those be used?



  10. Thomas Brown
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    1/5/2014 6:01 AM
    Hey Red, not sure if I'm one of the supers you were aware of or not. I think I might of share this with you privately before, but thought it might be appropriate to share my son's story from my book of memoirs for my grandchildren.

    EVANSENT


    I don't know when exactly I became aware of my desire to carry on the family name. All I know is that I was the only male Brown in my family, as was my father, and his father before him due to his brother dying without having a son. I had a self imposed fear that I might be the end of the line. I'm well aware that there are more Browns than Jones' now in this country but I like to think Browns are like snowflakes whereas no two are alike.

    Evan was the 13th child born at a midwifery clinic outside of Quarryville, PA.; I always referred to it as a pig farm due in part to its close proximity. He was our second born child and first born son. Evan had a normal delivery and because he was a boy, people told us we had "the million dollar family". They said that because now in addition to Melodie, we had a son and that was societies ideal. Everything seemed normal with Evan until the day after he received an infant inoculation from his pediatrician. He had a seizure at home and turned blue for a little while until he came out of it. (Medical studies have shown that there is no correlation between a mercury based childhood inoculations and mental impairment so we'll just say it was a coincidence and use the timing as a point of reference). The ambulance took him to the hospital and couldn't find anything wrong with him. Evan continued to have seizures from time to time and his pediatrician recommended medication to prevent them. We were told Evan had an idiopathic seizure disorder. In layman's terms that means they don't know why it happens.

    Evan was developmentally delayed. He was slow to crawl, walk, talk, and become toilet trained. Well meaning relatives had a lot of suggestions to Judy and me on how we might help his speed up his progress. Evan looked normal, a handsome blue eyed blond; "Are you reading to him?" they would ask. "Don't baby him" they would chide. What they saw as encouragement came across as a helpful heaping of guilt.

    When Evan was three year old toddler he was diagnosed as being mentally retarded with some autistic tendencies. The state of Maryland provided early education for handicapped children and at this early age transported him by a special school bus to Perryville Elementary School and back through the week. This gave Judy some much needed respite because Bethany had been born at the "pig farm" on my birthday in 1980. It wasn't until Evan was 19 years old that some psychologist in the school system reversed the diagnoses to his being predominately autistic with mental retardardation. We never knew if the proper label of his condition in the early years of his development would have made a difference in his life or not. It's not important in the here and now.

    Trying to establish the right seizure medicine with the least amount of side effects for a growing child was a challenge. It seemed like all the different pills had the same downside: liver damage. Several times a year we would make a trip on the route 1 bypass to Jennersville Hospital in Pennsylvania to have Evan's blood levels checked to monitor possible liver damage. Coming home on one occasion from the hospital after a particularly bad lab episode resulted in an uncooperative son and a very embarrassed father; I decided to have a pity party. I was almost certain that Evan was never going to have a normal life – he would never marry or have children of his own. I had hoped to have a son I could teach to play sports. I was already turning Melodie into Mel and a tomboy at that. Looking over at him, I uttered a silent prayer, "Surely You could heal him, I'm believing on Your Word".

    And then an amazing thing happened. Out of nowhere words came into my head as if God were speaking to me with a melody and words to a song. By the time I reached the house some 15 minutes later, I had all the lyrics in my head. Judy was waiting supper for me but like a dream when you first wake up, I was afraid if I didn't write everything down in my head right away I would forget it. As quick as I could write, it was done. Here are the lyrics to the song:

    Traveling down the bypass, looking at my son;
    Wondering what the future holds for this retarded one.
    Looking for the reason, questioning my Lord,
    "Surely You could heal him, I'm believing on Your Word."

    Chorus
    "Have you walked in My shoes? Can you read My mind?
    I'll give you all the answers at the end of time.
    But as for now, just trust in M"
    He said "My grace is sufficient for the".

    What a revelation! Could there be a plan?
    Can't I trust the Lord enough to leave it in God's hand?
    When I doubt His wisdom and offer my advice,
    I think of what He spoke to me and trust in Jesus Christ.

    Chorus

    So if your prayers aren't answered in weeks or months or years,
    Know there is a reason although it seems unclear.
    Cause if God cares for sparrows; takes time to number hairs,
    And if He dresses lilies don't you think He answers prayer?

    Chorus


    The melody to the song was never put to paper but remains in my head, thirty years later. I shared the song at a men's retreat once and the story and song at a couple church services years ago but am reluctant to talk about it much today because I don't want people to look at me funny. I haven't been inspired to write any other songs, but do enjoy writing poetry and an occasional limerick.

    Ironically, after Bethany was born, Judy and I would have four additional sons born to us: Rory, Tyler, Austin, and Lucas. My fears of the family linage ending with me were no longer a concern.

    Living with a child with disabilities can be exacerbating at times. After many years, we finally got a handle on his seizures, with medication. The most difficult aspects of Evan's autism involve temper tantrums, understanding single syllable and some sign language skills, and his need for us to repeat the same phrases over and over again. Through a combination of verbal utterances and his own brand of sign language, he gets great pleasure from getting us to say the phrase he wants to hear. Ron, a co-worker, borrowed my truck twenty years ago and Evan thought it was hilarious; as if he pulled one over on me. "Ron drives Dad's truck" has been one of his favorite lines. Seemingly innocuous, try saying it 20 times a day for 20 years along with some other nonsensical gems. He wants to communicate but repeats like a broken record. The rest of Evan's day at home is spent watching videos in his room of Muppets, Sesame Street and Barney sing- a- longs. He bounces in his chair while keeping the beat with his feet. We average about two rocker/recliners a year after the springs give out in the seat. Unfortunately, Evan likes to stay at home too much. A van picks him up through the week to take him to the Center. This facility provides some training and for us respite for physically and mentally impaired adults of all ages. At the present time Evan hates going to the Center and can be very disruptive now and again while he's there. He doesn't enjoy visiting relatives nearby like he used to and summer vacations are hard for him to adjust to the unfamiliar surroundings.

    Evan is six foot two inches tall and weighs about 210 lbs. We are grateful that he showers without our help and can dress himself, although he is known to layer his clothing above the waist. Layering includes two t-shirts, a sports jersey, and usually two sweaters or sweat shirts. In the summer, we hide his sweaters and winter clothing and force him to wear some seasonal garb.
    If you don't know this by now, let me warn you – never pray for patience. God has a habit of granting wishes on his terms and timetable with the big picture in mind. In this case not only would I get experience practicing patience over the years but in the developing story of our lives, older sister Melodie, would be influenced by Evan to take sign language in high school. Furthermore, my tomboy used her signing and singing skills for her commencement exercises at Shepherd University, in West Virginia and in competing for Miss Maryland in the Miss America Pageant. After graduation, she spent 2 ½ years working in Puerto Rico as a missionary working at a deaf school and is currently trying to obtain her national certification in deaf sign language. Evan hasn't had as profound an impact on our other children as he had on Mel, but in many ways they are better people for the life experience. If anything happened to Judy and me, any one of them would take Evan into their home to live out his years.


    Tom



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