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toro multipro 1250 t-gear box

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  1. Robert Searle
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    6/24/2011 8:06 AM
    I have a 2009 multi-pro 1250 with only 125 hours. During my spray this week it became apparent that oil was leaking around the shaft of the "pump gear box". Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue.

    Bob Searle
    Abenakee Club



  2. Matt Falvo
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    6/24/2011 8:06 AM
    I've had to reseal several of those gear boxes over the years. Not with 125 hours though. Seal may have failed from sitting or maybe too much oil in the gear box.

    Bret Hart
    Equipment Manager
    Turning Stone Resort



  3. Taylor David L
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    6/30/2011 9:06 AM
    if it is coming from the top, then it is coming from the vent (fill area). venting oil due to too much.



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    7/1/2011 10:07 AM
    Is that the gear box that goes to the clutch, back to the transmission and electric clutch? We have a 2004 with 968 hours on it, the clutches both went this week, (some snap ring clip got out of place) and when they had the gear box out and were going to change the oil (Mobil SHC 634 synthetic oil) it was so clean they decided not to. This was a thick oil that probably wouldn't run out if a seal let go. If this is the same gear box did Toro switch oils?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. Robert Searle
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    7/1/2011 12:07 PM
    BallMark said: Is that the gear box that goes to the clutch, back to the transmission and electric clutch? We have a 2004 with 968 hours on it, the clutches both went this week, (some snap ring clip got out of place) and when they had the gear box out and were going to change the oil (Mobil SHC 634 synthetic oil) it was so clean they decided not to. This was a thick oil that probably wouldn't run out if a seal let go. If this is the same gear box did Toro switch oils?

    Mel


    Yes, same gear box. The oil is very thick. I guess it has to be thick oil because it gets very hot. So to keep it's lubricating properties it has to be able to withstand that temperature. I didn't notice it until after about the 8th green when the oil was leaking from the shaft and it threw the oil onto the muffler, then started smoking. I suppose when it got hot enough to become thinned out, that's when it started to leak by. No damage on any green thats i've seen yet, but where I had parked to get off to get the pins there are some are some burned out spots.



  6. Robert Searle
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    7/1/2011 1:07 PM
    They are still recommending to use the mobile shc 634 synthetic



  7. Dinger Greg
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    7/18/2011 7:07 PM
    This is a 460w gear oil (same family as 90w, AGMA 7 spec to be exact). The reason for such a high viscosity is due to the style of gearbox, which has a worm gear. The input/through shaft is the worm (similar to a screw) and the pump output drives off of this worm. There is an incredible amount of friction potential with this style of gear box, and I suspect a synthetic is prescribed due to the high temps possible with this style of gearbox.

    The only drawback; while the pump side seal is a Viton material, the input (worm) shaft at the front and back are rubber. Some synthetic chemistry is not so rubber friendly, so possibly this has some effect on some of these boxes.

    GM trucks have had a similar issue in the past decade and a half or so. Forever, in front and rear diffs, the recommendation was to fill to the bottom of the fill plug. Then all of the sudden, the recommendation was to fill an inch below the plug... why? Because the front and rear axle seals were failing at a high rate, depending on chemistry involved when the oils were changed or topped off. Top offs are especially crucial, because the chemistry must match, or incompatibility issues can arise, which include seal failures.

    Not saying this is always the issue, but something to be aware of when spec'ing your replacement oil for this gear.

    Greg Dinger
    970-903-2296



  8. Dinger Greg
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    11/13/2011 2:11 PM
    For your info, R&R has this oil available (Swepco 201-460w, meeting AGMA7 specs) by the gallon, for about 1/4 of the price per quart of the Mobil product. This is a Petro based product, which makes it much more compatible with most seal materials. This is a great service from R&R because this is normally only available in a 6 gallon case.



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