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  1. Brian Roth
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    2/28/2014 12:02 PM
    What is the size of some of your maint. facility shop/buildings (sqft)? We built a new building about 10 years ago and it was a huge upgrade, but I argued then that is was not big enough. Now I am trying to justify / get approval for another storage building. We have 5000 total sqft, with 600 of that being office space, leaving 4400 for everything else: repair area, all equipment and inventory storage. Cannot near fit everything. A lot of stuff parked oustside, etc. Just trying to get an average size for an 18 hole course, see if I am asking for too much??? Thanks.

    Brian J. Roth CGCS
    Oquirrh Hills G.C.
    Tooele, Ut



  2. Andy Jorgensen
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    2/28/2014 2:02 PM
    Our 18-hole course building measures just under 9,000 ft2 with another 2,400 ft2 building for our wash rack and fuel tanks. What we have is too small. I need about another 4,500-6,000 ft2 of covered storage to fit everything out of the weather.

    Moving forward, we will be constructing another shop for our 36-hole operation comprised of three buildings. The main building will house all small equipment, offices and R&M and be comprised of about 11,500 ft2. The "equipment" building will be another 6,750 ft2 and the wash bay another 2,400 ft2. Just under 21,000 ft2 and I still don't think it will be big enough. Our company tends to hang on to stuff for a long time, and I have a feeling that even though the building will be plenty large for our needs now, as other people decide to use our storage, I feel we will need even more space.

    I was at a 27 hole course yesterday that has a shop I designed and built about nine years ago. The shop is roughly 9,600 ft2 in one building. First thing I noticed when I walked in was that half of the overhead mezzanine area I designed for storage was being used to store files for the accounting office. Another roughly 600 ft2 of equipment storage space was being used to house the old clubhouse dining room chairs. So in other words....go as big as you can!



  3. James Smith
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    3/2/2014 6:03 AM
    Andy has a good point. try using his information to help justifye a bigger shop. Having extra space, even if it is overhead is a great idea and if you can get another 5000 sqft added by selling storage space for club stuff it would be even better.



  4. Kenneth Meals
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    3/3/2014 10:03 AM
    We recently added a mezzanine to the inside of our facility. A good amount of space is taken up by all the little things. We're able to now fit more equipment inside and things don't need to be parked so close together.



  5. Douglas Eggert
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    3/3/2014 1:03 PM
    My shop is also 5000 sq ft, 12 ft side walls. The building is divided in half, only mechanics bay and offices are heated. Roughly 800 sq ft is for offices/ bathrooms/ lunch room. The rest is uninsulated.

    I also requested another 3000 sq ft of cold storage to store the equipment in. I have a dedicated chemical loading area in the building also, which is mandated in Illinois. So actual storage of chemicals is an unheated chemical storage building. All fertilizer is spread the day it arrives.

    The cost of heating the addition and cold storage areas, and adding a grinding room was $200K, the cost to do the building originally in 1995 was $140K. It's not uncommon for a piece to park on the lift overnight. I have the less used equipment sitting outside.

    So it's not uncommon for things to sit out. I wish our stuff sat inside especially this year. Could have used the additional heated space to work on carpentry projects. 70"+ of snow.

    Our Parks Dept built next to us on the course and they are 8000 sq ft, 16 ft sidewalls, and they doubled their size, and they now are tight. Plus their whole building is heated.

    Good Luck.



  6. Michael Vogt
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    3/3/2014 2:03 PM
    Brian:

    On Thursday this week I'll be presenting a webinar on maintenance facilities with GCSAA. I will be going over the many topics we normally face when considering planning and programming space needed.
    I hope you can make it.



  7. Kenneth Meals
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    3/4/2014 9:03 AM
    If you have the height in the facility and a means of getting things up to it a mezzanine is a good option. This is a picture of the one at our facility, we also have plans for another one to go up.



  8. Brian Roth
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    3/4/2014 10:03 AM
    Thanks for all the ideas and suggestion. Planning on the Thursday webinar, and I really like the mezzanine idea. We have about a 20' ceiling/roof, good idea for using pretty much dead space.

    Brian J. Roth CGCS
    Oquirrh Hills G.C.
    Tooele, UT



  9. Melvin Waldron
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    3/6/2014 3:03 PM
    Our storage space is 2,000 sq. ft. with a service truck hogging some of it. Luckily we don't have much equipment. We have about 700 sq. ft of office and break room.

    We have received a new triplex and have a tractor on the way so for temporary, we are looking at inclosed carport structures. Maybe adding 500 sq. ft.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  10. Sandy Clark
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    3/6/2014 5:03 PM
    I have 11,200 sq.ft. It is a Sprung Structure and is divided into office space, equipment storage, equipment maintenance area, lockers restrooms and lunch room / meeting room. We still utilize every square inch of it. Admittedly, I have more equipment than most courses but start with the idea of housing your equipment FLEET! Emphasize the importance of keeping equipment indoors and having a functional office, mechanical and crew space. We run a business and our management facility should reflect that. When was the last time a club ever went too small for a dining room or member locker room? We provide the product they enjoy and our management of it and the facility we work out of should reflect the pride of the entire operation. We are not a left over thought. Fight for as much as you can. It is very easy to justify from your view!



  11. Melvin Waldron
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    3/7/2014 7:03 AM
    With the new tractor coming we were encouraged to get things inside, so the reason we are looking at adding car port structures, so management is looking out to keep equipment in better shape. One of our other facilities has even less space then we do.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

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